hamerfan50 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Greetings everyone...what a GREAT forum, with a GREAT bunch of folks!!! I've always been a strat player from the first time I picked up an electric. Trouble was, I really couldn't settle on a strat I absolutely loved. Please don't get me wrong, I've had more than few wonderful strats, American Series, EC, EJ sigs, 50th annies to name a few, but not to name drop. That is until I bought a 1993 Hamer Daytona. I loved the 1 11/16 nut width, the 14" radius fret board, the SD pups, the locking tuners, etc. I've gotta believe, that I'm not alone. With that, to my Hamer family, please tell me, why do you think Hamer stopped making this righteous guitar? I gotta know! Thank you very much! Hamerfan...soon to be 51! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundernotes Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Oh boy, here we go....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holLoWskull Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Most likely the same reasons most any product gets discontinued....poor sales and/or the company wants to go in a different direction with its product line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTMN Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 /\ +1 to those comments. Hamer just went in another direction. They are really nice aren't they? This livingroom noodler loves the pair in my house. NT Blackie Post up some pron of your's please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-isle rock Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Here's mine: And one I should've never sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH Guitar Freak Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I have one too, blackie like but more relic, love her none the less...I shall take pics of her tonight or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnieZ Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Here are my Ode to Fender Hamers. ArnieZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disturber Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I never tried the Daytona but I love my T-62. Smaller body, probably filled with helium as it weighs absolutely nothing. ABM tremolo that stay in tune perfectly and sustains like a bell. The neck is wide/medium and is just made for playing hours of those funky rythm chords, no fatigue just pure fun. I'd love to try a Daytone one day. Here's a pic to the T-62: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic1974 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I never tried the Daytona but I love my T-62. Smaller body, probably filled with helium as it weighs absolutely nothing. ABM tremolo that stay in tune perfectly and sustains like a bell. The neck is wide/medium and is just made for playing hours of those funky rythm chords, no fatigue just pure fun. I'd love to try a Daytone one day. Here's a pic to the T-62: What's that little switch at the back of the guitar for? Is it a standard thing, or did you order it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disturber Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I'd love to try a Daytone one day. Here's a pic to the T-62:What's that little switch at the back of the guitar for? Is it a standard thing, or did you order it? It is standard from the factory and it activates an EMG boost circuit board mounted in the back cavity. It is mounted exactly as the mini switch on a Centaura, which does not have a pic guard. The Centaura and T62 are similar in many ways, (both excellent guitars). Perhaps it was a way for the Hamer factory to be efficient in production? That is the only reason I can think of why they did not mount it on the pickguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH Guitar Freak Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Here are my Ode to Fender Hamers. ArnieZ Man, I wish I could find another Daytona like yours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siaip Ciuvas Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 It could well be the case that Hamer was doing too good guitars and got legal warning from Fender that they look too much like theirs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentman Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hamer discontinued all of the bolt-on guitars when they moved the factory to CT in 1997. Great guitars. Here's my custom daytona: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I'm sure they're fine guitars, but I for one never understood why they started making Daytonas and T51s in the first place. At least Hamer's Gibson rips had some unique touches (sustain block bridges on the Sunbursts/Specials; softer, sexier lines and binding on the Standards). Other than the headstocks, these were IDENTICAL to Strats and Teles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH Guitar Freak Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 They are as good or better than many strats, but cheaper... It's a win win for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Jol Dantzig said that with people like Tom Anderson and James Tyler providing top quality Fender style guitars there is no need for Hamer to make Strat and Tele style guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH Guitar Freak Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Is Jol Dantzig implying that he making Gibson like guitars because Gibsons sucks at building themselves??? *runs and hides* Please don't hurt me, I was only joking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzwriter Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Did the Daytonas have the regular Fender Strat 25.5" scale, or did they use the Gibson 24.75" scale, or...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH Guitar Freak Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Did the Daytonas have the regular Fender Strat 25.5" scale, or did they use the Gibson 24.75" scale, or...???25.5" by the looks of it, or at the very least most of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzwriter Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Did the Daytonas have the regular Fender Strat 25.5" scale, or did they use the Gibson 24.75" scale, or...???25.5" by the looks of it, or at the very least most of them...Yeah -- that's what I would guess by looking at them too. Would love to have a strat with a shorter scale. I just can't bond with my strat -- hate the scale and the way it plays. Funny because I love the same scale on teles.p.s. Who's the gal in your avatar??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acb Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Jol Dantzig said that with people like Tom Anderson and James Tyler providing top quality Fender style guitars there is no need for Hamer to make Strat and Tele style guitars.makes alot of sense. atleast to me.economics of supply and demand; mucho supply of good strat/tele components by many producers even beyond current demand. the surplus impact of marketing is a downward push on pricing to compete with the big name manufacturers. not alot of profit to justify the manpower or business focus. from a marketing perspective, there is a hell of alot of static/noise from the sheer number of decent producers. makes it awfully tough to compete - like a shouting match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH Guitar Freak Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Did the Daytonas have the regular Fender Strat 25.5" scale, or did they use the Gibson 24.75" scale, or...??? 25.5" by the looks of it, or at the very least most of them... Yeah -- that's what I would guess by looking at them too. Would love to have a strat with a shorter scale. I just can't bond with my strat -- hate the scale and the way it plays. Funny because I love the same scale on teles. p.s. Who's the gal in your avatar??? Kate Todd, and can you work out why it's bloody so small??? I love 25.5" scale guitars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzwriter Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Kate Todd, and can you work out why it's bloody so small??? I love 25.5" scale guitars... Not sure why your photo is so small -- all I know is that Kate needs to spend a LOT more time south of the border! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polara Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I'm sure they're fine guitars, but I for one never understood why they started making Daytonas and T51s in the first place. At least Hamer's Gibson rips had some unique touches (sustain block bridges on the Sunbursts/Specials; softer, sexier lines and binding on the Standards). Other than the headstocks, these were IDENTICAL to Strats and Teles.+1. If you're known for basically doing Gibson copies, and then add Fender copies and then some dinky Jackson copies... you end up with um, oh Hamer. That company that builds a bunch of guitars that look like other peoples' designs.They still sorta make Gibson copies but they are now pretty clearly -- to the usual consumer -- of Gibson ancestry or inspiration, rather than just one more minor variation on an original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaVO Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Not sure why your photo is so small -- all I know is that Kate needs to spend a LOT more time south of the border! She's very pretty. If she's from Australia, then it doesn't get much more southern than that. She's from south of the Equator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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