ARM OF HAMER Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Here...............No affiliation.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hamer-Elite-Les-Paul-Flame-top-Historic-The-Best-Killer-top-USA-R7-R8-R9-/191466034959?pt=Guitar&hash=item2c9443d70f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugartune Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What the? That didn't leave the factory that way, did it? Didn't even think this finish type was conducive to checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfun75 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I don't buy any of that relic'ing nonsense but that IS a killer finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMERMAN Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 To me it looks less like professionally aged and more like non-professionally abused. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugartune Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 To me it looks less like professionally aged and more like non-professionally abused. :-)Ha! Very perfect analog for natural wear and tear vs. "Relic'd" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM OF HAMER Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 One thing you should understand when you have a "RELIC" or just a old well play worn guitar is that because of all the checking,dings,dents and bare wood where the finish is literally gone you can not use a paste/liquid white wax/polish because as you can see in the photos of this guitar its going to leach into those areas leaving remnants behind.I think weather striations on a older guitar look really cool,on a guitar thats nitro finished its rare not to have some develop over time.On a newer guitar like this one it doesn't work for me.......it looks fake and out of place IMHO.Its a cool color though and a cool Hamer, the price.............not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomerang~Junkie Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 First off, I love old, worn guitars and realistic relics. This just does not look right at all. When this Monaco Elite left the factory there is no doubt it was fucking phenomenally beautiful. Its the only way they made them - period. This one is like brush painting a newer Ferrari with red barn paint and then calling it custom paint with an added up-charge?!?! Sadly, we've blown past a mere WTF on this jewel of a CF. At the bare minimum, a swift kick in the twins is in order here. Painfully bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echos Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Maybe it's just me, but I love guitars that look well played...artificial or natural. Love the flame on this one, the relic job looks okay to me. But, they didn't age the hardware at all. A shiny bridge and stopbar doesn't go with they relic body. Heck, I'd give him $350 for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KofSeattle Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Hurts to see this done to a guitar. Never understood the relic thing other than naturally aged beauty mojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Looks like I did it. And that's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchee Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Weird...I didn't think that Hamer's catalized finish was supposed to weathercheck like nitrocelluose. On Hamers with the catalized finish, that I've seen that DID get weatherchecked (a rare occurence, IMO...you really have to mistreat a Hamer to do that), they had finishes that shattered like glass, with really ugly results, and they didn't behave like a nitro finish. I wonder if this guy (or somebody else) did the 'relicing' with an X-acto knife? Maybe a refin to nitro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 That thing has most likely been given the razor treatment, by someone who said they knew what they were doing.I wouldn't touch that unless there is real confirmation from someone in the know that it was really made that way, and not just some idiot deciding that since he put a few dings on his guitar, he'd get more if it was was "relic'd". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disturber Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Well that looked like utter shite. I can understand why he is selling. Sad indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghamerinfrance Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This is just a worn nice monaco elite and good luck with the sales but I never saw an worn Elite going to 2500 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfeel Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 That seller needs to put down the pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli'd Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 No affiliation with the seller, but this is a particularly nice looking example.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hamer-Elite-Les-Paul-Flame-top-Historic-The-Best-Killer-top-USA-R7-R8-R9-/191466034959?pt=Guitar&hash=item2c9443d70fThe mention of this being a experimental relic model- anyone have any info on that? I've never heard of anything like that from the factory, and I don't usually go in for that sort of thing, but this looks pretty tastefully done, IMO and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Although Flynn was one of the largest Hamer dealers in the USA, they take quite a few liberties with the truth in their descriptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli'd Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I noticed they listed it as a 2002, didn't MONEL's come out in 2003? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghamerinfrance Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Do not why but i wouldnt believe....nice one in all cases but 2500 is high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynic Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I don't usually go in for that sort of thing, but this looks pretty tastefully done, IMO and all that.Judging from the recent discussion here, you're in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM OF HAMER Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 I posted about this guitar earlier in another thread................ the guitar model itself and the color looks nice..............the "RELIC" job does not look either real or "Proper" on this guitar. Some guitars just look cool when they are play worn and the finish is cracked and crazed but this isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli'd Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 LOL sorry I didn't see the other thread, this one will be summarily nuked.. whether or not it looks real, I don't dislike how it looks, which surprises me. I'm normally the first to cry foul with "aged" guitars, they're usually way overdone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghamerinfrance Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 If someone knows however to unrelic myself. Could be great too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM OF HAMER Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Thats not a issue and don't misunderstand I like the guitar just not what someone did as far as try to age it..............razor knife perhaps? Also the other comment I made was that now the cracks have white polishing compound/wax in them which is tough to remove once its in the finish,that never looks good. As soon as you find that fountain of youth GHIF..............let me know and share...............much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveL Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 over the top keyword spamming historic les paul r7 r8 r9 really buddy? pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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