Pieman Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 http://dantzig.com/workshop/ Mods, if this is a dupe, please delete. Jol, has updated his website. Briefly, it has - photos and prices for prototypes sold and available now - photos and prices for models "available now" include a Monaco-styled model called the Milano - something called the Rialto - a VG review of a Tulsa (Talladega-like) Korina I will go back when I have time. I will leave it to the wise guys to chime in on the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velorush Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Really like the Milano, especially that cutaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Those Tulsa (Talladega) models look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBraz Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 $38,000. Thirty Eight THOUSAND Dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 33 minutes ago, DBraz said: $38,000. Thirty Eight THOUSAND Dollars. Out of his fucking tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Prof Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 He builds really nice stuff. Wonder who writes those melodramatic narratives; Elaine Benes during her lunch breaks at J. Peterman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Biz Prof said: He builds really nice stuff. Wonder who writes those melodramatic narratives; Elaine Benes during her lunch breaks at J. Peterman? Not a bad deal, if it comes with an Urban Sombrero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorch Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 13 hours ago, DBraz said: $38,000. Thirty Eight THOUSAND Dollars. Upcoming inflation counted in? The Crow influenced my Scheithauer Charlie Christian Bo Diddley build. An absolutely crazy guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJ Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 On March 23, 2017 at 1:07 PM, velorush said: Really like the Milano, especially that cutaway. Reminds me of a Newport with a single cutaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, FGJ said: Reminds me of a Newport with a angle cutaway. Reminds me of every fucking used Monaco that I can buy for $1200 in new condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pieman Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, kizanski said: Reminds me of every fucking used Monaco that I can buy for $1200 in new condition. Exactly, except the Monaco has dot markers. And you had a better idea of the builders. Also, If you are going to tee off on Leo Fender's designs from the 1950s, why are you using a font for your logo that comes out of the Hapsburg dynasty. Totally ruins the overall look and impression. At least for me. All this from a guy who loves sports cars and touts his design esthetics. The "signature guitars" didn't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Pieman said: Exactly, except the Monaco has dot markers. Victorys, but I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Pieman said: Exactly, except the Monaco has dot markers. And you had a better idea of the builders. It was Jol pushing the quality of the construction method at Hamer. I expect anyone he hires to be producing the same level of quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serial Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 16 hours ago, Biz Prof said: He builds really nice stuff. Wonder who writes those melodramatic narratives; Elaine Benes during her lunch breaks at J. Peterman? This episode was on TV the night before last. Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geowolves Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 There is a builder out there named Mike Shishkov. Doing dream guitars for a few if not many and I mean many Benjamin's less than a pompous Dantzig. $3800 then let's talk about what you really want$$$. Mike knows his wood and how to make it harmoniz with a plan. Hamer was a success due to Mike and company! I have no grudge against Jol but I don't go for extortion! Check the Shishkov posts out and there can be no questions ask unless you ask them! I am sure Jol's guitars are something special, but no need to go there! Mike has it down!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
django49 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Tulsa could be a good base for "my idea" of what I might want to pursue. Substitute korina for the body and neck, ebony for the board and a few other tweaks. I have the outline in the hands (emails) of two builders and await a reply. Neither of them have the initials J.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Guys ... take it easy. It's BRANDING. Jol is targeting a certain buyer, just like any other luxury goods maker. If you're cringing at the price, no worries - you're not a potential buyer anyway. Those of us who wear Timex are not customers of Breitling or Rolex, and that's fine. If you're a Ford or Honda driver, Lamborghini doesn't care that you exist either. If he can get somebody to buy at his prices, good for him. If not, he's already creating a perception of where his stuff fits in the market, so if he DOeS want to sell to the common man, the "Team-built" lines are suddenly perceived as being reasonably-priced. Its basic Marketing 101 - you don't have to like it or appreciate it, but it works. He's getting the attention of a lot of people and media. It doesn't matter if it's positive or negative. If the only bad thing somebody can say is that the pricing is unreasonable, delusional or crack-inspired, so be it. I don't think anybody will fault the quality of his (or his "team's") work. He's promoting more of a lifestyle or 1% niche v. a "working man's guitar". There's a place for that in the world whether people like it, think it's stupid or love it. They're not for me, but I totally get what he's doing. Hell, I remember people losing their fucking minds in the '70s because a Hamer Standard cost $1,250 when a new Les Paul was under $600... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serial Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Agreed-Jol presents each of these with a bit of history and insight into his design ideas for each one, which I think is what these are geared towards. That is a specialized market that does have customers, so I get the appeal, even if it isn't necessarily something I could spring for at present! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, cmatthes said: Guys ... take it easy. It's BRANDING. Jol is targeting rich assholes. He's promoting more of a lifestyle or 1% niche, AKA: rich assholes, v. a "working man's guitar". FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Wait a minute. Did you not buy a vintage tele for a five figure amount years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Steve Haynie said: Wait a minute. Did you not buy a vintage tele for a five figure amount years ago? If you're addressing me, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, kizanski said: FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeboy Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 You guys are funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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