george4th Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 So, here it is: A little pricey, but beautiful.. Here is the link, the Music Zoo https://www.themusiczoo.com/collections/used-vintage-guitars/products/used-1981-hamer-standard-electric-guitar-refin-and-re-topped-sunburst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Re-topped and refinished four digit for that price? I just don't see it. That's like the guy who has 30K in restoring a muscle car that's worth 25K. He keeps it or he dumps it for a loss. Don't get me wrong, it is beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorch Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I'd say keep it in the zoo so everybody can watch it. It's very nice! Although there won't be any new and refurbishing is not for free, the price is pretty high on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgstandard Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I'd love to own this one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy p Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 But it's on sale and has free shipping! A steal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorch Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 This threads stimulate playing Standards. I had my red wine Mahogany out yesterday. Reminded me how wonderful it plays and sounds. Standards definitely rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srvwannab Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 So... what is the fair price consensus?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 When I was in the business, I called guitars like this a "Right Guy" instrument. It'll have to go to the "right guy" to bring money in that neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 There's a "right guy" born every minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, cmatthes said: There's a "right guy" born every minute! It might be early on Monday morning, but I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptm1diver Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Why spend that kind of money when you can get one of the new Hamer standards, which are just as good for so much less. 🤠 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugartune Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 It does look very nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratacus Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 The right guy is out there. https://reverb.com/item/6024135-hamer-standard-1997-natural-finish-explorer-w-ohsc-rare-find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disturber Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 hours ago, ptm1diver said: Why spend that kind of money when you can get one of the new Hamer standards, which are just as good for so much less. 🤠 Because it is bad ass. That is why. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptm1diver Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, Disturber said: Because it is bad ass. That is why. I love it. You love wood? Well there are places, where you can get a piece of bad ass just as long as you have the right wood. Sorry, I don't personally know of any such places. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorch Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 5 hours ago, stratacus said: The right guy is out there. https://reverb.com/item/6024135-hamer-standard-1997-natural-finish-explorer-w-ohsc-rare-find Mahogany greatness! Very nice this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddie Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Jeepers Miss Landers while you were butchering it up anyway why not put a cheap wraptail on it or one of those Hipshot boiled egg slicer tails. or really tramp it up with a big ol' gold Bigsby (yeee haww sold separately just pay an additional S&H fee). Oh Miss Landers come on now. Don't give us that innocent babe in the woods schtick, you know exactly what "trampin' it up" means. What the hell! "Repairing" genuine bar band weekend warrior player wear and aroma with a new top? That is blasphemy mate. You should be hung from the highest yard arms in the British invasion! btw-what is a yard arm? dats a lotta rope, ain'a hey Stosh? HO LEE Ca-ripes, ya sure got dat right Stubs. On 17/07/2017 at 7:32 AM, ptm1diver said: Why spend that kind of money when you can get one of the new Hamer standards, which are just as good for so much less. 🤠 Is there a Hamer Company out there making new Hamers? set yer 3D printer to flame maple Cheers from Royal Birkdale Links on the bonnie dunes of the Irish Sea! Oh my aching Schwartzel. caddie - alas w/o a loop for The Open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddie Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 15/07/2017 at 3:00 AM, gorch said: I'd say keep it in the zoo so everybody can watch it. It's very nice! Although there won't be any new and refurbishing is not for free, the price is pretty high on this one. The monkeys will throw their shit at it in disapproval of the retop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 The retop is totally fine. Charging the same as an all original example for a de-Kahlered, refinished, retopped, swapped parts, etc. instrument (note that I'm not saying all of that is present with this particular guitar) will likely have poo flung. If you have a '53 Goldtop that had been altered for a Kauffman Vibrola or stop/tunamatic added, then you retopped it with flame maple, refinished it, had Tom Murphy age it, reset the neck angle to a late '50s pitch, swapped the P-90s for aftermarket PAFs and replaced original hardware and plastics with repro vintage-accurate parts...and then ask $400k for it, would you: a. Honestly believe you could sell it for the same price as an unaltered, all original '59 Les Paul; or b. Expect to dodge flung poo from people who have half a brain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfun75 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 You gotta start high! They're probably waiting for a 5k offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddie Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 9 hours ago, cmatthes said: The retop is totally fine. Charging the same as an all original example for a de-Kahlered, refinished, retopped, swapped parts, etc. instrument (note that I'm not saying all of that is present with this particular guitar) will likely have poo flung. If you have a '53 Goldtop that had been altered for a Kauffman Vibrola or stop/tunamatic added, then you retopped it with flame maple, refinished it, had Tom Murphy age it, reset the neck angle to a late '50s pitch, swapped the P-90s for aftermarket PAFs and replaced original hardware and plastics with repro vintage-accurate parts...and then ask $400k for it, would you: a. Honestly believe you could sell it for the same price as an unaltered, all original '59 Les Paul; or b. Expect to dodge flung poo from people who have half a brain? Hey matthes, that half a brain thing cuts a little close to the bone er... cranium. btw, their must be a Russian connection on McCain's brain tumor. Somebody is not telling the straight, unfiltered truth. I call for a Senate investigation, a Congressional investigation, a DHHS investigation and a special prosecutor. That oughta cost about $28M. That's equals about (16) 4-dig Standards, (1) Eclipse 12 string in flip-flop green and a 3 hole Duotone. Loose change, some Hamer swag. On 14/07/2017 at 4:06 PM, The Shark said: Re-topped and refinished four digit for that price? I just don't see it. That's like the guy who has 30K in restoring a muscle car that's worth 25K. He keeps it or he dumps it for a loss. Don't get me wrong, it is beautiful! He keeps it or he dumps it for a loss. I just don't see it. We have very short memories don't we? Have we forgotten the IMPROV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Caddie said: He keeps it or he dumps it for a loss. I just don't see it. I've seen it many times. People "restore" something deemed collectible and believe they'll get what they have in it out of it. Or, as in this case, it's worth what an original example is worth. Restored cars may pull all the money that an original example does, but eclipsing market value to restore is a big no no. That's how you go out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george4th Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/17/2017 at 7:32 AM, ptm1diver said: Why spend that kind of money when you can get one of the new Hamer standards, which are just as good for so much less. 🤠 Where can you get a NEW Hamer Standard? This is an honest question, please provide me with a link or something as I am VERY interested. -G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george4th Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/16/2017 at 10:14 PM, srvwannab said: So... what is the fair price consensus?? A WHOLE lot LESS! In my opinion they are crazy. Just a post to show it off, Definitely not a go buy this type of post. -G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I may be in the minority here, but setting aside how gorgeous that Standard is, I love that it was restored (even modified) by the factory. I probably wouldn't pay more than 5 grand for it, but I would do so gladly if I had the cash. A 4 digit restored and repaired by Mike Shishkov? Yes, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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