diablo175 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 After all the hassle and bullshit this place put us through, we packed the joint and made them a good haul in booze sales. This is the Brickettes post on FB about us. They want us back. Ain't that some shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomerang~Junkie Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 After you posted about how you guys were treated by them on round one and with the state of social media today - that's about as strong an endorsement / compliment as you could hope to get. You guys must have kicked ass and shook the walls! Well done. Glad to see it turned for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo175 Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 The other corker? Arguably my worst night playing my "signature" leads- and not just few clams here and there. They were shit show train wrecks. Was ready to hang it up after that night. And yet I had more people come up and compliment me on my playing and even more people I've never met before, say how good we sounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Alcohol sales were good, then. That is what a bar wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcald Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 1 hour ago, diablo175 said: The other corker? Arguably my worst night playing my "signature" leads- and not just few clams here and there. They were shit show train wrecks. Was ready to hang it up after that night. And yet I had more people come up and compliment me on my playing and even more people I've never met before, say how good we sounded. Isn't it funny how that is? I've had that too, where I think I play great and crickets, but if I think I sucked, guaranteed someone will say it was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy p Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 10 hours ago, diablo175 said: The other corker? Arguably my worst night playing my "signature" leads- and not just few clams here and there. They were shit show train wrecks. Was ready to hang it up after that night. And yet I had more people come up and compliment me on my playing and even more people I've never met before, say how good we sounded. Always happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenmindbeginner Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 On July 30, 2017 at 10:21 PM, diablo175 said: The other corker? Arguably my worst night playing my "signature" leads- and not just few clams here and there. They were shit show train wrecks. Was ready to hang it up after that night. And yet I had more people come up and compliment me on my playing and even more people I've never met before, say how good we sounded. Most likely when they saw the gear, they made the decision that you guys were going to be great. Most humans wouldn't know quality if it was tickling their ball sacks/mammaries... they respond to bling and money spent more than anything. Just shows that all of those guitars weren't a bad investment... they give the audience the impression that you play well even though you admittedly had a bad night. If you would have showed up with a Peavey, a Hondo and a ZOOM, people might have had the opposite experience... you could have had a great night but the crowd might have made up their minds and decided that you were hacks before you played one note. That Facebook post was golden though... that is some MAD props to get from a bar owner or manager. You should be stoked! Glad that it turned out well and that people were effusive with their compliments and good vibes. You deserve to feel good about what you are doing... it's more work than those drunks can even imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff_hartwell Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Congrats on a great gig! A little practical tip on the volume level - there are several free apps for "decibel meter" and "dB meter". Especially if you're working with a FOH guy, have him download whichever free one you like (download a couple, test out at rehearsal, and go see a different live band or two that are on the loud side, and get some baseline readings with a few apps and settle on one you like) and agree with your sound guy on what your dB ceiling should be. I'd say keep it 90 or under, 100 if you like to live dangerously. It's useful to have him use the meter onstage at various points to make sure your monitor level/stage volume isn't getting crazy and causing muddiness or fatigue. You'd be surprised how much of a positive difference it makes for everyone- band, sound guy, patrons, bartenders and especially owner. In addition, I always keep an eye on the bartenders- if I see they are leaning over the bar towards a patron, or have to ask to repeat, cup an ear,etc, I flag the sound guy and signal a decrease with an open hand with five fingers (for 5%) and point down. Obviously, discuss this beforehand... I always get a smile from said SG (bc they typically love a Guitar player that can actually hear and is alert to the surroundings), the bartenders make more money, and the result is always positive. Particularly if you have your monitors dialed in, he can goose the FOH down to keep it manageable, and nothing changes onstage so you can continue to bring the Rock. And as far as the overall gig goes, I'm sure you already know that the practical concerns are to make money for the venue, provide an entertaining performance, and then cover your end financially and to your musical satisfaction. After 150-200 gigs a year for at least the last 15 years, I've mellowed as far as beating myself up when I blow a change here or there, but I always make notes for myself and hit those things in personal practice- that journey is endless for all of us. and I had a bandleader say to me once, "Eh don't sweat it kid. A bad note is like a fart; it may stink for a second but chances are nobody noticed, and unless you confess, the blame almost always lands elsewhere." Hahahaha but seriously, kudos to a good night, and keep doing what you're doing- you're obviously doing something right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo175 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 4 hours ago, geoff_hartwell said: Congrats on a great gig! A little practical tip on the volume level - there are several free apps for "decibel meter" and "dB meter". Especially if you're working with a FOH guy, have him download whichever free one you like (download a couple, test out at rehearsal, and go see a different live band or two that are on the loud side, and get some baseline readings with a few apps and settle on one you like) and agree with your sound guy on what your dB ceiling should be. I'd say keep it 90 or under, 100 if you like to live dangerously. It's useful to have him use the meter onstage at various points to make sure your monitor level/stage volume isn't getting crazy and causing muddiness or fatigue. You'd be surprised how much of a positive difference it makes for everyone- band, sound guy, patrons, bartenders and especially owner. In addition, I always keep an eye on the bartenders- if I see they are leaning over the bar towards a patron, or have to ask to repeat, cup an ear,etc, I flag the sound guy and signal a decrease with an open hand with five fingers (for 5%) and point down. Obviously, discuss this beforehand... I always get a smile from said SG (bc they typically love a Guitar player that can actually hear and is alert to the surroundings), the bartenders make more money, and the result is always positive. Particularly if you have your monitors dialed in, he can goose the FOH down to keep it manageable, and nothing changes onstage so you can continue to bring the Rock. And as far as the overall gig goes, I'm sure you already know that the practical concerns are to make money for the venue, provide an entertaining performance, and then cover your end financially and to your musical satisfaction. After 150-200 gigs a year for at least the last 15 years, I've mellowed as far as beating myself up when I blow a change here or there, but I always make notes for myself and hit those things in personal practice- that journey is endless for all of us. and I had a bandleader say to me once, "Eh don't sweat it kid. A bad note is like a fart; it may stink for a second but chances are nobody noticed, and unless you confess, the blame almost always lands elsewhere." Hahahaha but seriously, kudos to a good night, and keep doing what you're doing- you're obviously doing something right Our sound man said he metered the sound at the front of the bar (away from the stage) at 93 dB peaks. Wish it was just a few harmless clams, though. It was pretty bad- more like a losing my place and a complete departure from any semblance of the original structure, having to resort to just wanking in pentatonic in the song's key. Uhhhgh. So fucking disheartening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorrow Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 59 minutes ago, diablo175 said: Wish it was just a few harmless clams, though. It was pretty bad- more like a losing my place and a complete departure from any semblance of the original structure, having to resort to just wanking in pentatonic in the song's key. Ha! You know what? Once our sax player at the time couldn't make it for a gig and I had to play almost all his solos --the trumpet player took over a couple. What do you think I did? Same thing for a local metal band which "hired" me as a quick replacement for a festival. I got just one week to learn their material. I said I would play rhythm OK and that I would *try* to point out the important notes on some of their solos, but that I would just improvise the most of the time (safely, of course, which means pentatonics all the way). And I just did that. On both cases I got praises not only from some people in the crowd, but also from bandmates and fellow musicians. And you know what? There's an audience record of the first show mentioned above. At least in a couple of places I was *very noticeably* hesitating, looking for the notes, dabbling... I can clearly hear my mistakes! But nobody noticed. So, I guess my tone was just too great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo175 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 29 minutes ago, zorrow said: Ha! You know what? Once our sax player at the time couldn't make it for a gig and I had to play almost all his solos --the trumpet player took over a couple. What do you think I did? Same thing for a local metal band which "hired" me as a quick replacement for a festival. I got just one week to learn their material. I said I would play rhythm OK and that I would *try* to point out the important notes on some of their solos, but that I would just improvise the most of the time (safely, of course, which means pentatonics all the way). And I just did that. On both cases I got praises not only from some people in the crowd, but also from bandmates and fellow musicians. And you know what? There's an audience record of the first show mentioned above. At least in a couple of places I was *very noticeably* hesitating, looking for the notes, dabbling... I can clearly hear my mistakes! But nobody noticed. So, I guess my tone was just too great. Given those conditions, I'd say you responded appropriately and whatever issues may have resulted, were more than reasonable. In my case, there were no excuses, no factors that could provide plausible deniability. LOL they were songs we've been playing almost from the start. I called them my "signature leads" because they are ones I have labored to get very close to note for note. Coincidentally and even ironically, the solos that were more free-form and improvised, where I got to stretch out and take chances, were both executed better and much more satisfying. The good news is, my rhythm playing was pretty spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaVO Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Ain't nuthin wrong with pentatonic wanking...just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcald Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 7 hours ago, zenmindbeginner said: If you would have showed up with a Peavey, a Hondo and a ZOOM Hey, you're not serious unless it's a Hondo II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyB Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 hours ago, diablo175 said: Wish it was just a few harmless clams, though. It was pretty bad- more like a losing my place and a complete departure from any semblance of the original structure, having to resort to just wanking in pentatonic in the song's key. Uhhhgh. So fucking disheartening. That's what Clapton did on "Crossroads" and that solo is considered legendary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorrow Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I frankly think bluesy licks and long notes are so ingrained in our cultural background that every time you play those with attitude, the crowd responds positively. Everything else is just for musicians and/or connaisseurs, which the 90% of the crowd just aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Pentatonic wanking uncrosses the legs of female audience members. Modal noodling crosses the arms of male guitar nerds. Pick your poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcald Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, MCChris said: Pentatonic wanking uncrosses the legs of female audience members. Modal noodling crosses the arms of male guitar nerds. Pick your poison. That's hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, MCChris said: Pentatonic wanking uncrosses the legs of female audience members. Modal noodling crosses the arms of male guitar nerds. Pick your poison. Man as a grasp on things.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Glad to hear that it worked out! Hopefully if you do decide to play that place again, it is less of a CF beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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