Ting Ho Dung Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Been putting this off for years but I’ve finally learned all five pentatonic positions. Does everyone know these. I’ve been out front letting Hamer and Shishkov eat the weeds for the past several days. I can’t leave them by themselves out here so I sit on the porch practicing these, among other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 There are five?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Ho Dung Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, kizanski said: There are five?? I guess I should have said modes. Major, Dorian, Phrygian, Mixolydian, and Minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicwash Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I need to brush up on the less common positions (that's what she said). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptm1diver Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I thought you finally learned how to get along with all 5 of your neighbors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorrow Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I seriously thought the post was going to be about the five Pinan (or Heian) katas: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinan Oh! What a karate nerd I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Ho Dung Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, zorrow said: I seriously thought the post was going to be about the five Pinan (or Heian) katas: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinan Oh! What a karate nerd I am! Guitar chops. Not karate chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorrow Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Well, on topic now, I remember I read once about modal pentatonics, but I forgot the details. I can still picture each pentatonic box corresponding to a specific mode, but I never think them like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Ho Dung Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 hours ago, zorrow said: Well, on topic now, I remember I read once about modal pentatonics, but I forgot the details. I can still picture each pentatonic box corresponding to a specific mode, but I never think them like that. How do you think them? Or do you really have to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaVO Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Let's see: jermaine, Tito, marlon, Michael and Jesse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 hours ago, zorrow said: Well, on topic now, I remember I read once about modal pentatonics, but I forgot the details. I can still picture each pentatonic box corresponding to a specific mode, but I never think them like that. Meaning the five "blues box" shapes with the rest of the notes in between? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, Ting Ho Dung said: How do you think them? Or do you really have to? Once you get them under your fingers in minor and major (shifted down 2 steps, or three frets), the neck really falls into place. The beauty of the 5-pattern, pentatonic box system is that whatever key you're playing in, the scales/modes are already mapped out for you. If you find yourself staying in boxes as you're improvising rock chops, just move up/down to different boxes. It's all the same five notes. Michael, you might want to try Sam Bell's DVD, "Pentatonic Workout." Does a good job of explaining the 5 boxes and moving through them to create licks. The 3 note/string sequences are especially cool, though they require some warming up as they are very stretchy. Dimebag did a lot of this style of soloing and he always ripped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 hours ago, BubbaVO said: Let's see: jermaine, Tito, marlon, Michael and Jesse It was Jackie, not Jesse. I watched their cartoon show every Saturday during 2nd Grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorrow Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Ting Ho Dung said: How do you think them? Or do you really have to? You must not! But now you ask... I see the pentatonic boxes with diatonic chords superposed on them. I also see two-strings geometrical patterns everywhere, like chunks I can play on different octaves and which are all connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Ho Dung Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, zorrow said: You must not! But now you ask... I see the pentatonic boxes with diatonic chords superposed on them. I also see two-strings geometrical patterns everywhere, like chunks I can play on different octaves and which are all connected. Diatonic? Supposed? Looks like more work for me today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Custom Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Once you can play them E to E, learn to connect them going up and down the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaVO Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Steve Haynie said: It was Jackie, not Jesse. I watched their cartoon show every Saturday during 2nd Grade. Nope...https://www.google.com/search?q=jesse+jackson&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTnY-rh9_XAhXDYt8KHX78AaEQ_AUICygC&biw=1280&bih=654#imgrc=WSY5G7ilWreDLM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Ho Dung Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Studio Custom said: Once you can play them E to E, learn to connect them going up and down the neck. Yeah, that’s basically how I learned them the last few days and nights. I’d gu up the neck playing them by ear and then memorizing the the pattern until I gat all five. Now I can play each pattern over the same position too. It’s opening things up. Not as good as Phil X yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorch Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 26.11.2017 at 4:49 PM, Ting Ho Dung said: Been putting this off for years but I’ve finally learned all five pentatonic positions. Now you've made the first step, learn the five diatonic patterns with the 2nd step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_B Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't know, Mike... That seems precariously close to learning theory. Next thing you'll be talking about is arpeggios and invererted chords. Seriously, add some theory to what you're working on. It may not result immediately in better playing, but once it clicks you'll see a quantuum improvement. I can't recommend it strongly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velorush Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 If Dora Plays Like Me, All's Lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaVO Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 You got a tab for these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 4:39 PM, gorch said: Now you've made the first step, learn the five diatonic patterns with the 2nd step. Just use a few passing notes, Michael. You'll land there at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Ho Dung Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 11 hours ago, BubbaVO said: You got a tab for these? I don’t. Would a video help. I’m thinking of making one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaVO Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, Ting Ho Dung said: I don’t. Would a video help. I’m thinking of making one. Sure would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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