tbonesullivan Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Harley-Davidson sued Honda over their Shadow 750 American Classic Edition, because they managed to come very close to the exhaust note/sound of a Harley. This is done by using a single pin crankshaft and specific firing interval, which honestly caused the Honda to LOSE horsepower. I don't think the lawsuits were ever settled, but I think Honda changed the engine mainly so they would stop having to deal with the lawsuits. Like Gibson, they often hope that the threat of a lawsuit will end up being too expensive so the other side gives up. Harley Davidson also tried to trademark the "tink tink tink" noise their engine, and EVERYONE ELSES AIR COOLED ENGINE, makes when cooling down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Prof Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said: Harley-Davidson sued Honda over their Shadow 750 American Classic Edition, because they managed to come very close to the exhaust note/sound of a Harley. This is done by using a single pin crankshaft and specific firing interval, which honestly caused the Honda to LOSE horsepower. I don't think the lawsuits were ever settled, but I think Honda changed the engine mainly so they would stop having to deal with the lawsuits. Like Gibson, they often hope that the threat of a lawsuit will end up being too expensive so the other side gives up. Harley Davidson also tried to trademark the "tink tink tink" noise their engine, and EVERYONE ELSES AIR COOLED ENGINE, makes when cooling down. I'd have enjoyed it had the '90s-era owners attempted to trademark the "drip-drip-drip" sound an AMF-era Harley makes leaking oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 It's even got a cup that catches the oil it pukes out when starting. What is amazing though is that those AMF years are when most of the ground work was laid for the Evolution engine. Of course, most other motor companies had gone long past that decades before. H-D's design is definitely retro, and while it's harder to see now, is STILL based around having a giant flywheel at the bottom to smooth out the power. And of course a chain primary drive between the crank and the transmission... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Prof Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, gtrdaddy said: The idea that courts gave Gibson protection on a design under trademark law is preposterous and I don’t know why aside from cost, that no one has taken it back to the courts. I like your thinking. Interesting that FMIC pressured Charvel, Jackson, Kramer, Fernandes, ESP, and many others to stop emulating the Stratocaster headstock profile due to what I recall being touted as those knockoffs creating confusion in the marketplace. Of course, that confusion--as it relates to Charvel and Jackson--magically dissipated once FMIC acquired those brands. I'm a firm believer in intellectual property protection, but bullshit is as bullshit does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucSulla Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I'm sure everyone is dying to read this. https://davidsontm.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/three-chords-and-a-lawsuit-a-brief-history-of-guitars-and-trademarks/ Actually, it is pretty informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/6/2018 at 7:31 AM, Jeff R said: I was kinda expecting a natural wood, PRS sig logo variation of the Dan Spitz PRS headstock. The idea came from simply making a 6 in a row style headstock and stretching the current PRS style into something so ugly I would like it. - Dan Spitz, March 2010 I actually like that body carve a little....just a little. That headstock starts off as a tilted PRS at the nut, then skee-slopes flat paddling to a simple mooned fork. Hideous upon hideous upon hideous. That headstock is an Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucSulla Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 You know what? I've determined that I don't hate it. I may try one someday if everyone keeps hating them and they end up on the used market on the cheap-ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudshark Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 A friend of mine has a PRS SE EG, and I think it's a helluva nice guitar. The one in the pic isn't his but looks exactly like his. It is a set neck guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom53 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I have finally "bonded" with my PRS CU24.. And I finally found a "Strat" that I like.. But Hamer's are still on the top of my "Do Not Sell" List... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhuber Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 From this Demo I can tell you I like the pickups in the PRS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEBxrOLvVho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchee Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 PRS hisself weighs in: https://reverb.com/news/paul-reed-smith-responds-to-john-mayer-silver-sky-controversy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewey finn Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Oh look, another over priced strat knock off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The only thing I get from the comments is that apparently only the first 500 come with a hardshell case? REALLY? A $2300 guitar that doesn't have a hard case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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