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It’s certainly cool! No, I hadn’t heard of them.

I recognize there Jeff Scott Soto, Billy Sheehan and Mike Portnoy.

The keyboardist maybe is Derek Sherinian, but I’m not 100% sure. And the guitarist suddenly looked to me like Jim Matheos when he sang, but it shouldn’t be —he looks younger than Matheos, moves a lot on the stage and shreds big time (and Matheos doesn’t do either). Who’s that guy?

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5 minutes ago, gtrdaddy said:

It’s Ron Thal, one of the more recent guitarists from GNR.

Ah! I’ve heard of him but barely know anything about him. I do know however his nickname is “Bumblefoot” and that he plays fretless guitars sometimes. I’ve also listened to some of his solo stuff, but I don’t really remember the impression it caused to me. Need to (re)do my homework there. :)

5 minutes ago, gtrdaddy said:

I sure hope this isn’t the end of The Winery Dogs! Sheehan and Portnoy with Kotzen kicked ass in that band.

Those guys are into so many projects! I also hope The Winery Dogs isn’t done. Kotzen not only plays, but also sings up there with the bests.

On the same vein, Sherinian played in Black Country Communion and I heard they were back together. Hope they will stay together for some time more. I like that kind of British bluesy hard rock quite a bit.

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The Sons Of Apollo album is very good.  They're doing a tour in April/May.

 

April 5th - Monterrey, Mexico – Escena
April 8th - Santiago, Chile - Teatro Teleton
April 10th - Buenos Aires, Argentina- Groove
April 12th - Porto Alegre, Brazil - Opinião Bar 
April 14th - São Paulo, Brazil - Tropical Butanta
April 15th - Belo Horizonte, Brazil - Music Hall
‪Thu. 04/19/18 - Montreal, QC - Corona Theater
https://tickets.evenko.ca/shop/…
Fri. 04/20/18 - Toronto, ON - Opera House
https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1649805
Sat. 04/21/18 - Grand Rapids, MI - The Intersection 
https://www.etix.com/…/sons-of-apolloall-ages-grand-rapids-…
Sun. 04/22/18 - St. Louis, MO - Delmar Hall http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/06005453D174651C
Tue. 04/24/18 - Lawrence, KS - Granada Theater https://www.ticketweb.com/t3/sale/SaleEventDetail…
Wed. 04/25/18 - Denver, CO - Summit Music Hall
https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1651307
Fri. 04/27/18 - Las Vegas, NV - Brooklyn Bowl
https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1650853
Sat. 04/28/18 - Sacramento, CA - Ace Of Spades
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sons-of-ap ... f-spades-t…
Sun. 04/29/18 - Portland, OR - Hawthorne Theater
http://cascadetickets.com/event/?performer_id=5992314
Mon. 04/30/18 - Seattle, WA - The Showbox
http://axs.com/events/350459/?skin=showboxpresents
Wed. 05/02/18 - San Francisco, CA - Regency Ballroom
http://axs.com/events/350461/sons-of-apollo-tickets
Thu. 05/03/18 - Los Angeles, CA - The Belasco Theater
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/09005450A5ED64F7
Fri. 05/04/18 - Anaheim, CA - House Of Blues https://concerts1.livenation.com/event/090054502DB8A351…
Sat. 05/05/18 - Tempe, AZ - Marquee Theater
https://www.ticketweb.com/…/sons-of-apollo-marquee…/8144645…
Mon. 05/07/18 - San Antonio, TX - Alamo City Music Hall https://www.dinproductions.com/…/1651302-sons-apollo-san-a…/
Tue. 05/08/18 - Dallas, TX - Canton Hall https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1650530…
Wed. 05/09/18 - Houston, TX - Scout Bar
https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1652133…
Fri. 05/11/18 - Nashville, TN - 3rd & Lindsley
https://www.ticketweb.com/t3/sale/SaleEventDetail…
Sat. 05/12/18 - St. Charles, IL - Arcada Theater 
http://www.arcadalive.com/upcomingevents/
Sun. 05/13/18 - Minneapolis, MN - Varsity Theater
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/060054538A43330B
Tue. 05/15/18 - Cleveland, OH - House Of Blues
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/05005450262607B6
Wed. 05/16/18 - Philadelphia, PA - Theater Of The Living Arts
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/02005450E3B1D591
Thurs. 05/17/18 - Washington DC - Howard Theater
Fri. 05/18/18 - New York, NY - Playstation Theater
http://axs.com/events/350522/sons-of-apollo-tickets…
Sat. 05/19/18 - Worcester, MA - The Palladium 
http://www.thepalladium.net/event/1649609

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Well, I’m not sure I’d go see them when they will be in town. I’m saving my bonus points for Michael Schenker Fest. ;)

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On 2018-02-23 at 1:50 PM, zorrow said:

Well, I’m not sure I’d go see them when they will be in town. I’m saving my bonus points for Michael Schenker Fest. ;)

I finally missed it. :( Had family issues abroad and left for a week. Things go better now, but well, no Michael Schenker Fest for me. Next time, I guess. (sigh) 

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I like the song.  What's with the double neck mania?  Is that their gimmick?  In the YT comments someone asked why the vocalist didn't have two mics.  Interesting to me that Sheehan isn't doing any singing.  I know he's done a bunch in past projects.  

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One of my Favorite "Bar" Bands that a lot of people have never heard of and they have disbanded, is "The New Duncan Imperials" .. Just like the "Yo Yo"... They were a extremely Fun band to see Live...!  Look them up on You Tube to see their Other Songs..!

 

 

 

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I really enjoyed this single when I first heard it, but the album suffers the same problem all modern rock and metal seems to have. 

Start tangent here -

It's all mastered with so little dynamic range that it's like pounding your head with a sonic hammer through most of the album.  It literally puts me to sleep even if I like the music.  Granted, this is really clean and sounds great by the song, but the album really is at 11 the whole time. I wouldn't say it is smashed like some other albums (Looking at you Californication, Vapor Trails, and Death Magnetic) , but it doesn't have much dynamic range. 

I don't blame the musicians for this, but mastering everything right to 0 dBFS and keeping the whole album there just kills albums for me.  Even if they shake things up with instrumentation, it's all the same dB coming out, so as far as a brain is concerned, everything is as loud as everything else.  This is also the reason I started listening to NPR and talk radio around 2002, which morphed into a serious podcast addiction 10 years later.  All my new music was making me fall asleep on car trips, while the dynamic range of spoken media kept me awake.  

I really dug some of the tunes on this album, but I ended up switching back over to a podcast for that very reason while I was checking it out about a month ago.  Just 6 dB of dynamic range... that's all I'm asking, haha.  

Anyway, weird place to go, I know.  But I was really annoyed by it because I really like some of these songs. 

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4 hours ago, LucSulla said:

I really enjoyed this single when I first heard it, but the album suffers the same problem all modern rock and metal seems to have. 

Start tangent here -

It's all mastered with so little dynamic range that it's like pounding your head with a sonic hammer through most of the album.  It literally puts me to sleep even if I like the music.  Granted, this is really clean and sounds great by the song, but the album really is at 11 the whole time. I wouldn't say it is smashed like some other albums (Looking at you Californication, Vapor Trails, and Death Magnetic) , but it doesn't have much dynamic range. 

I don't blame the musicians for this, but mastering everything right to 0 dBFS and keeping the whole album there just kills albums for me.  Even if they shake things up with instrumentation, it's all the same dB coming out, so as far as a brain is concerned, everything is as loud as everything else.  This is also the reason I started listening to NPR and talk radio around 2002, which morphed into a serious podcast addiction 10 years later.  All my new music was making me fall asleep on car trips, while the dynamic range of spoken media kept me awake.  

I really dug some of the tunes on this album, but I ended up switching back over to a podcast for that very reason while I was checking it out about a month ago.  Just 6 dB of dynamic range... that's all I'm asking, haha.  

Anyway, weird place to go, I know.  But I was really annoyed by it because I really like some of these songs. 

Years ago JohnnyB gave us a technical explanation of the difference between the dynamics mastering in the era of vinyl and modern day mastering.  The old albums had excitement. 

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Most music created commercially today is listened to in high noise environment.  Wearing headphones in public, busy roads in cars , stores, etc.  in those situations dynamics means either it is too quiet to hear some parts or it suddenly blasts your ears.

The way we used to listen to music in a room meant you could hear the dynamics.

 

It seems music is meant to stay louder than any background noise.  Listening in a quiet environment is not the norm I guess.

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11 hours ago, Jack C said:

Interesting sounding. I definitely didn’t hear any Who, though...

I didn’t mean they sound like The Who, just that I hear  a similarity... specifically at 2:40, which reminded me of ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’. No, you are right in that they do not sound like The Who, just more of a modernized similarity at a moment in time. 

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On 18/03/2018 at 10:18 PM, Jack C said:

Interesting sounding. I definitely didn’t hear any Who, though...

Its the synth intro, 2nd cousin on yo mama's side from the intro to Baba O'Riley.   its close enough for some of the "Led Zep lawsuit" atty's to try to make a case.

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On 3/19/2018 at 3:25 AM, LucSulla said:

It's all mastered with so little dynamic range that it's like pounding your head with a sonic hammer through most of the album. 

The https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war is definitely a thing.

I'll second the "so many necks" comment too.  :D  That was the first thing I thought.  Then "damn I bet those are heavy" and then "wow, I'm getting kind of dizzy from the spinning camera".

The music falls into the same category as Winery Dogs and KXM for me.  Wanna like it, love the musicians, wanna support them, but the music doesn't catch me the way I wish it did.

 

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2 hours ago, sixesandsevens said:

The https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war is definitely a thing.

I'll second the "so many necks" comment too.  :D  That was the first thing I thought.  Then "damn I bet those are heavy" and then "wow, I'm getting kind of dizzy from the spinning camera".

The music falls into the same category as Winery Dogs and KXM for me.  Wanna like it, love the musicians, wanna support them, but the music doesn't catch me the way I wish it did.

 

Thankfully, they are beginning to subside due to quirks with YouTube.  Everything louder than everything else mastering is somewhat useless on the platform, which also happens to be the largest music service in the world by quite a bit. 

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On 18/03/2018 at 1:22 PM, custom53 said:

One of my Favorite "Bar" Bands that a lot of people have never heard of and they have disbanded, is "The New Duncan Imperials" .. Just like the "Yo Yo"... They were a extremely Fun band to see Live...!  Look them up on You Tube to see their Other Songs..!

 

 

reminds me of Cracker - other good ones include "In Ain't Gonna Suck Itself" , covers Merle Haggard "Reasons to Quit", The Bottle let me Down"

 

What the world needs now, is another hip-hop rapper, like I need a hole in my head!
 
 

 

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6 hours ago, sixesandsevens said:

The music falls into the same category as Winery Dogs and KXM for me.  Wanna like it, love the musicians, wanna support them, but the music doesn't catch me the way I wish it did.

 

Those bands need a Matthew Sweet or Dave Grohl or someone who knows how to write a good pop song. They are all muscle and technicality without any hooks. 

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