HSB0531 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 So I was going through the parts bins and found my original X2N pickups for #0531. I also have a red X2N that might have been previously owned by one of the Matthes brothers. Ive got 2 pit bulls and one X2N in there now. Each one is wired parallel and each has its own volume. Im bored and I was thinking about either replacing the remaining X2N with a pit bull, or replacing the two pitbulls with the original X2N’s. Then its a matter of wiring series or parallel. What would You all do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'd put it back to stock. The X2N's have a certain, stupid rawness that sound great in basses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, RobB said: I'd put it back to stock. The X2N's have a certain, stupid rawness that sound great in basses. You know, that’s about as accurate a description as can be said about the X2N. Thats what the middle one sounds like compared to the neck and bridge pit bulls. And it’s louder too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I do dig the X2Ns and wish those had been stock in more Hamer basses. I'm thinking about finally ditching the EMGs I can't stand in one of my Hamers and slapping a set of those in there. That being said, if you decide to move the PitBulls, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Prof Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 17 hours ago, HSB0531 said: And it’s louder too. One louder, exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Biz Prof said: One louder, exactly. Perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 6 hours ago, cmatthes said: I do dig the X2Ns and wish those had been stock in more Hamer basses. I'm thinking about finally ditching the EMGs I can't stand in one of my Hamers and slapping a set of those in there. That being said, if you decide to move the PitBulls, let me know. PM sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff_hartwell Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Curious: a DiMarzio X2N guitar humbucker was stock in some of the basses? Wow! cmatthes- if you’re replacing emg’s (P style? J style?) wouldn’t that require routing? Curious to know what bass you’re modifying. interesting stuff - inquiring minds want to know! (I apologize if this seems a tangent, and will gladly delete or re-post as another thread if so. Just genuinely curious! Thanks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, geoff_hartwell said: Curious: a DiMarzio X2N guitar humbucker was stock in some of the basses? Wow! cmatthes- if you’re replacing emg’s (P style? J style?) wouldn’t that require routing? Curious to know what bass you’re modifying. interesting stuff - inquiring minds want to know! (I apologize if this seems a tangent, and will gladly delete or re-post as another thread if so. Just genuinely curious! Thanks) Yeah early basses had anything from Gibson Thunderbird P/U’s (#0001) to dual Jbass and Gibson EB3 baby humbucker to custom wound Bill Lawrence (Quad Bass), then I’m guessing 1980 or 81 they started using the Dimarzio X2N and just a little later the Dimarzio model G. The original ones in mine have a black plastic base with a “patent applied for” sticker. Im assuming that the X2N might have started production around 1980 the earliest. as far as Chris goes, I Do know he has a B4M, and that has EMG humbuckers in it, so there wouldn’t be any routing. I just changed out the pickups yesterday. The pitbulls and the middle X2N were wired parallel, and I retired everything series this time around. So it’s back to its original setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 hours ago, geoff_hartwell said: Curious: a DiMarzio X2N guitar humbucker was stock in some of the basses? Wow! I love the X2Ns in bass... and yes- Hamer used the guitar version, and not the X2NB bass pickup which emerged later (different animals - behemoths, by comparison) The Model G pickup in my B4S below is the bass equivalent of the original X2N. I think it is pretty much identical, with exception of the poles vs. blades. Sounds that way, anyhow... Best of both worlds (EMG swap): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Done! The neck and bridge are the original PAF X2N’s The middle one is the X2N that I added in 1981. Interestingly, the pots are date coded from 1980. I Did order it in late 1980, so maybe those were left over from then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 16 hours ago, chromium said: I love the X2Ns in bass... and yes- Hamer used the guitar version, and not the X2NB bass pickup which emerged later (different animals - behemoths, by comparison) The Model G pickup in my B4S below is the bass equivalent of the original X2N. I think it is pretty much identical, with exception of the poles vs. blades. Sounds that way, anyhow... Best of both worlds (EMG swap): What year is the black one? What s/n? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, HSB0531 said: What year is the black one? What s/n? 1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, cmatthes said: 1990 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff_hartwell Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 That’s really cool! How is it actually wired? No switches, three volumes? Do tell! 13 hours ago, HSB0531 said: Done! The neck and bridge are the original PAF X2N’s The middle one is the X2N that I added in 1981. Interestingly, the pots are date coded from 1980. I Did order it in late 1980, so maybe those were left over from then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 That looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 7:09 AM, geoff_hartwell said: That’s really cool! How is it actually wired? No switches, three volumes? Do tell! Geoff: Each X2N is in humbucker mode (series). Each pickup has its own volume. I ordered it in late 1980 not even knowning it had a specific name, just that I wanted a transparent red explorer shape. I ordered it with a red Calzone case flight case It originally came in with (2) X2N pickups - 1-neck, 1-bridge. Wiring was humbucker mode, 2 Volume, 1 tone. I never use the tone control and I needed more mids, so I added the middle X2N not long after received it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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