pablo Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 This one is terrible beauty for me. No aff https://reverb.com/item/10727458-hamer-standard-custom-2006-black-transparent This one and the blue ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Thank god that one has a first fret crown. Takes away 100% of my interest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornjulio Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, cmatthes said: Thank god that one has a first fret crown. Takes away 100% of my interest! Definitely one hell of a beautiful guitar! Not to sidetrack here... but my question being: What's the idea behind a first fret inlay? Is this meant to be the epitome of "luxury"? At least in terms of crowns and from a historical Gibson point of view? When I spoke to Mike recently I was trying to get my head around this (for specific reasons). I had never given it much thought before to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorch Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Beautiful quilt! A really nice example of a fantastic late Hamer Standard for a really nice price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, cornjulio said: What's the idea behind a first fret inlay? Is this meant to be the epitome of "luxury"? At least in terms of crowns and from a historical Gibson point of view? When I spoke to Mike recently I was trying to get my head around this (for specific reasons). I had never given it much thought before to be honest. It may be an homage to the Les Paul Custom or the very first Hamer Sunbursts which had it. I'm not sure, but I know I don't like it, either way. I like it sometimes with block inlays (like on a LPC), but with crowns or Victories it looks funny to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadroller Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I can imagine how Kiz feels about a zero fret. But why imagine? I'm sure he'll tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicwash Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The ad says it was made in Arlington Heights in 2006. Must be a fake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff R Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Ed, a guitar nut is in essence a zero fret, but utilizing the latter saves time in construction and set-up. It's not a lot of extra effort and time to add a zero fret to a collective fret bed you are seating, beveling, leveling, crowning and polishing. At the same time, you eliminate not only the time but the margin of error that comes with cutting/routing a clean, level nut slot, shaping a nut, seating a nut (don't forget curing time for the glue) and slotting a nut to perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1966 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 i don't mind the first fret inlay . my studio custom has it and it doesn't bother me . but i am wondering why a 2006 would have crown inlays - at that time didn't they switch to victory inlays ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Toadroller said: I can imagine how Kiz feels about a zero fret. But why imagine? I'm sure he'll tell us. HATE the Zero Fret!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camstone Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ajm1966 said: i don't mind the first fret inlay . my studio custom has it and it doesn't bother me . but i am wondering why a 2006 would have crown inlays - at that time didn't they switch to victory inlays ? Special order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchee Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Needs Punisher inlays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadroller Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 hours ago, kizanski said: HATE the Zero Fret!! Yep. As expected. Kiz doesn't disappoint ...unless he intends to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 hours ago, ajm1966 said: i don't mind the first fret inlay . my studio custom has it and it doesn't bother me . but i am wondering why a 2006 would have crown inlays - at that time didn't they switch to victory inlays ? No - that was 2008. Victories were an option on Standards until after the first few months of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeboy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Doesn’t the zero fret also make the open strings sound like the fretted strings since the open strings with a zero fret are now, well, fretted? No more binding in the nut or having the nut change the tone....I wonder why more makers don’t use them, other than the looks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhuber Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I had to google zero fret. You all have a good eyes. I missed the first fret marker too. I'm still not seeing the zero fret, or can you tell it's a zero fret by how deep the strings are laying in the nut? Regardless it's still a nice guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, dhuber said: I'm still not seeing the zero fret... It doesn't have a zero fret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB0531 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 17 hours ago, cornjulio said: Definitely one hell of a beautiful guitar! Not to sidetrack here... but my question being: What's the idea behind a first fret inlay? Is this meant to be the epitome of "luxury"? At least in terms of crowns and from a historical Gibson point of view? When I spoke to Mike recently I was trying to get my head around this (for specific reasons). I had never given it much thought before to be honest. I think it came from the Gibson Les Paul Custom and SG Custom days. I always Liked the 1st fret inlay. Thats a great looking Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersteel Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 14 hours ago, HSB0531 said: I always Liked the 1st fret inlay. Me, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 If you want to convert to a zero fret Stewart-MacDonald has you covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucSulla Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/17/2018 at 5:15 AM, cornjulio said: Definitely one hell of a beautiful guitar! Not to sidetrack here... but my question being: What's the idea behind a first fret inlay? Is this meant to be the epitome of "luxury"? At least in terms of crowns and from a historical Gibson point of view? When I spoke to Mike recently I was trying to get my head around this (for specific reasons). I had never given it much thought before to be honest. They're like those buttons on the inside of your shirt - just in case one falls out, you have a spare. And because it's the biggest, it will fit anywhere with a little trimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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