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    KISS: RARHOF Update. Not Good.

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    To me, Vinnie Vincent is as important as some of the later players. He was brought in when they were at their absolute bottom and helped them climb back up with Creatures of the Night.

    Fixed.

    Paul had some good comments in the Classic Rock Magazine interview regarding which band members get inducted, citing the Chili Peppers bringing up their first drummer who was in the band before anyone knew who they were. They also excluded Navarro, which I found odd. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to it. If the Hall makes that call, why would they exclude a guy who was in Jane's Addiction, a darling to the Rolling Stone brass? And if the band makes the call, why isn't Eric Carr, a beloved member of KISS, going in?

    So far we've only heard Ace and Peter's side; I wonder if/when we'll hear a response from Gene or Paul. Regardless, none of this is surprising. We have another CCR situation brewing here, where the other two living members were allowed onstage for the acceptance but excluded from the musical portion, during which they walked out of the theater (I think I'm remembering that correctly).

    It's all very childish (as is gossiping about them, or worse, doing a Podcast about them) but I guess none of us plebes will ever fully understand the rock star ego. Which is probably for the best.

    Edit: it just occurred to me that the Hall probably wants Navarro to go in first with Jane's, thus the Chili Peppers exclusion.

    Didn't need fixing - I said Lick It Up on purpose. Vinne definitely raised the bar talent-wise and wrote some great songs on Creatures, but that was their worst-selling tour and album up to that point (and probably still is). They also chose to downplay Vinnie's involvement at the time by using Ace's picture on the cover. However, on Lick It Up Vinnie was fully acknowledged as a member of the band and that was the album that put them back on the map and for better or worse, MTV. As for the HoF's decision not to induct the later band members, that seems to like a backward way of acknowleding that the Ace/Peter era had the sales, popularity, and influence that the later lineups didn't.

    Tried listening to some Kiss the other day and failed miserably. But 40 years ago I liked it.

    I'm the opposite. I hated them when I was young and only started listening to them a few years ago.

    How long have Thayer and Singer been with the band? How long were Frehley and Criss there (I mean actually with Kiss)? I lost interest in Kiss 35 years ago so I don't know those answers... But I'm guessing it has been at least equal length stints in the band, and maybe longer for Thayer and Singer(?). That would explain a lot about the exclusions/inclusions to me.

    Same deal with AC/DC. Some people say it isn't AC/DC without Bon Scott... Well, yes it is, and in many ways it rises above. Both are excellent lineups, but the truth is Bon was there what, 6 or 7 years? Johnson is going on 34 years as front man.

    Off topic rant: At the end of the day, Kiss (Gene and Paul) is still all about image, fame, and money... Not about making great music, and they don't get ANY of my money. AC/DC totally blows Kiss out of the water in every single respect. AC/DC IS rock n roll. :lol:

    Mark Evans should have been inducted with AC/DC!

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    Rock n Roll Hall of Fame Nominees

    in Hamer Fan Club Messageboard

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    I put in my 5 votes but here's my prediction.

    Definitely in:

    Nirvana (no, I didn't vote for 'em)

    Linda Ronstadt (sentimental fave)

    Either LL Cool J or NWA (they seem to always want to show their "hipness" by putting one hip hop/rap act in)

    The rest is a tossup. I'm not a real Kiss fan, but since influence is one of the criteria I don't see how they could miss. Everybody I know or play music with raves about Deep Purple, but to me their best album was Perfect Strangers so that shows how little I know! I wouldn't mind seeing either of those in because at least they are truly "rock".

    Stolen guitars alert

    in Hamer Fan Club Messageboard

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    Reading about this makes me sick to my stomach. Personal space invaded, personal items taken. A friend of mine had a similar issue where his house's doors and windows were being tampered with. He set up a couple of cameras and caught the next door (well, he's in the country so down the road a piece) neighbors kids breaking in a short time later.

    Are you getting better?

    in Hamer Fan Club Messageboard

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    I can't play the fast stuff I used to be able to play, but my attention to tone and vibrato has greatly improved. I feel better about a solo if I hit a few good non-rote phrases in it than if I play 7 speed licks strung together. Am I playing "better"? Maybe not, but certainly more maturely.

    Hamer of beer?

    in Ask the HFC Experts

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    I'm kind of surprised that nobody's suggested Yuengling. I sure wish we could buy it in Texas!

    Yuengling's everywhere in VA. I have it every once in a while, but I've noticed that anywhere it's NOT available people really, really seem to want it!

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