ya know... there are some of us for which this kind of "music/art" feels very familiar and comfortable. there are some of us that can appreciate Hendrix, Django and Derek Bailey simultaneously. though i would never nominate Bailey or H. Kaiser for the Top-Ten-Most-Awesome-Guitarist list, it's not because i don't understand and appreciate what they have to say, it's because such lists are stupid. both guitarists are thoughtful people that believe that there is something musical to be be discovered beyond the current boundaries of guitar. that's a good thing to me. (if you're interested, there is a fantastic documentary on Bailey (BBC i think) available that speaks to this.) yeah, it's not very popular and certainly does not appeal to those that value "technique". and i'm definitely not interested in converting anyone to the cause: if you don't like it, you don't like it. but to me, in some (not all) of this music, lies the same kind of punk ethic that i dig in Cash, Jaco, Beck, Page, Stravinsky, Einstein, Coltrane, Lennon, Partridge, Fripp, Evans, etc. and lest you think somehow i deem myself more sophisticated: i'm into my 2nd twelve-pack (on a Sunday), staring down divorce #2, figuring ways to skip work tomorrow, and i really need to go downstairs and practice this new funky version of Margeritaville (sp?) for my latest project. so, fwiw, ymmv, etc. mike