specialk Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I'm thinking of getting one for my '91 Sunburst: Those who have them: Are they worth it? Notice any changes for the better/worse? The Special K I had had the locking wraptail and I sure did like it, but I've never tried their locking "normal" tail. I don't have any issues with the original tailpiece on the Sunburst, and if it ain't broke... Anyway, if you have an opinion either way, let me know. Thanks! sk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I like them, I put the abr style bridge and aluminum stop bar tailpiece on my sg, i think it gets a bit more sustain, and it definitely makes stuff you have to take all the strings off for a breeze.i am a posting fool this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentman Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Worth it just for the ease of changing your strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 YES ! Call BCR Greg he'll hook you up. I have changed over my 4digit and my 91 Standard. Just save the old one just in case you want to sell it... Ya, right. That was the cleanest guitar I have ever owned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw686blue Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 My last 2 Hamers came equipped with Tone Pros locking tailpiece and bridge. The only advantage that I see is that the tailpiece doesn't go sliding off the studs and scratch the top of the guitar. I do not hear any difference whatsoever. Personally, I wouldn't waste my money retro-fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atquinn Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 My last 2 Hamers came equipped with Tone Pros locking tailpiece and bridge. The only advantage that I see is that the tailpiece doesn't go sliding off the studs and scratch the top of the guitar. I do not hear any difference whatsoever. Personally, I wouldn't waste my money retro-fitting.What he said.-Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskeyzulu Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 My last 2 Hamers came equipped with Tone Pros locking tailpiece and bridge. The only advantage that I see is that the tailpiece doesn't go sliding off the studs and scratch the top of the guitar. I do not hear any difference whatsoever. Personally, I wouldn't waste my money retro-fitting. +1 I rarely, if ever, take off all the stings at once. I change them one at time - so there is no chance of the tailpiece slipping off. I've read that TP tailpiece supposedly increases sustain, but I have doubts and would put that $ towards other gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veatch Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I put a set on The Money Pit (a Czech-made Dean Caddy that i blinged out), but i also replaced the machine heads and cut a bone nut at the same time, so it's hard to tell what the tonal difference was from just the bridge. I do know that guitar flat out howls now.Staying put when changing strings is a definite plus. Not sure if that is enough to justify the price. I know i'm happy with the guitars that i have it on, and would probably buy another set if needed. The bridge was tight - no wigglies on the saddles or (obviously) not on the posts after they were locked down. That has to make some difference, IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkavenger Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 My FM sounds killer with the tone pros ... but I thinks thats because my guitar tech went over the whole guitar more so than just the tone pros themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaVO Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Yes. Do it. You won't regret it. And if you don't like it, you could probably sell it on here for pretty close to what you paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar_allan_poe Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Personally, I wouldn't waste my money retro-fitting.You guys who pay several hundred dollars for a blinged out top, then gawk at a $100 piece that will protect the top crack me up. LOL!!Simple question.If your tailpiece accidentally comes off when changing strings and damages your top, will you be upset? If the answer is yes, then what the fuck are you waiting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskeyzulu Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 You guys who pay several hundred dollars for a blinged out top, then gawk at a $100 piece that will protect the top crack me up. LOL!!Simple question.If your tailpiece accidentally comes off when changing strings and damages your top, will you be upset? If the answer is yes, then what the fuck are you waiting for?Who changes their stings all at once? By changing one-at-a-time, you maintain most of the tension the neck is used to and keep string tension in balance with truss rod tension. The only reasons to change all at once would be to clean the fret board or replace a pickup, both of which can be done with strings on - or by simply removing the tailpiece. But hey, if you got a spare benjy to throw . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atquinn Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Personally, I wouldn't waste my money retro-fitting. Simple question. If your tailpiece accidentally comes off when changing strings and damages your top, will you be upset?... Yes, because it would mean I was an incredible dumb-ass -Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 The only reasons to change all at once would be to clean the fret board or replace a pickup, both of which can be done with strings onOr just remove all 4 inner strings and leave both E strings on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 If you think they improve tone, just undo the allen screw a bit and see if it makes any difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velorush Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I have been considering buying one of these for my Gibson. I don't know if it would improve tone and I almost never take all of the strings off at once, but the stock Nashville bridge will move on the studs ever so slightly if pushed on. That being the case, it would have to move around with temperature changes, changes in string tension due to bending, etc. The TonePros would keep this from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar_allan_poe Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Who changes their stings all at once? By changing one-at-a-time, you maintain most of the tension the neck is used to and keep string tension in balance with truss rod tension. I do, it is *way* easier and you can clean the fb more thoroughly with all of the strings off. I have yet to see a well made guitar be damaged because all of the strings are off. IMHO that is nonsense.Again, to me this is a no brainer. Time is money, and I would rather spend my time playing instead of removing one string at a time..jesus, that sounds tedious as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentman Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I never take strings off one at a time either. Even on guitars with trems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I never take strings off one at a time either. Even on guitars with trems.I don't know how you can manage that, especially with floating trems, but more power to you. I'm a one-at-a-time guy. I don't know how that approach takes any more time than taking all the strings off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar_allan_poe Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't know how you can manage that, especially with floating trems, but more power to you. I'm a one-at-a-time guy. I don't know how that approach takes any more time than taking all the strings off.I don't know how he does it, but I used to put something behind the trem to keep it level. When I had a Floyd I used to put a sock in the recess. On standard trems, I will depress the trem all the way and put something soft between the body and trem to keep from damaging the body.I clean and oil the entire fb at once. How do you clean and oil under one string at a time? That sounds like a complete PITA. I take a good string winder, loosen all the strings and cut them all at once. I then clean the fb and oil shortly after. At this point I clean all of the hardware and clean and polish between the pickups. How the hell do you do *this* one string at a time? LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atquinn Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't know how you can manage that, especially with floating trems, but more power to you. I'm a one-at-a-time guy. I don't know how that approach takes any more time than taking all the strings off.I don't know how he does it, but I used to put something behind the trem to keep it level. When I had a Floyd I used to put a sock in the recess. On standard trems, I will depress the trem all the way and put something soft between the body and trem to keep from damaging the body.I clean and oil the entire fb at once. How do you clean and oil under one string at a time? That sounds like a complete PITA. I take a good string winder, loosen all the strings and cut them all at once. I then clean the fb and oil shortly after. At this point I clean all of the hardware and clean and polish between the pickups. How the hell do you do *this* one string at a time? LOL!!!Yup. That's what I do to. With TOM bridges, I just lay a hand towel under the tailpiece so it falls on there. Then I take it off along with the bridge when I do the cleaning Makes cleaning the surface of the guitar nice and easy.-Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pirateflynn Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't know how you can manage that, especially with floating trems, but more power to you. I'm a one-at-a-time guy. I don't know how that approach takes any more time than taking all the strings off.I don't know how he does it, but I used to put something behind the trem to keep it level. When I had a Floyd I used to put a sock in the recess. On standard trems, I will depress the trem all the way and put something soft between the body and trem to keep from damaging the body.I clean and oil the entire fb at once. How do you clean and oil under one string at a time? That sounds like a complete PITA. I take a good string winder, loosen all the strings and cut them all at once. I then clean the fb and oil shortly after. At this point I clean all of the hardware and clean and polish between the pickups. How the hell do you do *this* one string at a time? LOL!!!Yup. That's what I do to. With TOM bridges, I just lay a hand towel under the tailpiece so it falls on there. Then I take it off along with the bridge when I do the cleaning Makes cleaning the surface of the guitar nice and easy.-AustinYep, me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I clean and oil the entire fb at once. How do you clean and oil under one string at a time? That sounds like a complete PITA. I take a good string winder, loosen all the strings and cut them all at once. I then clean the fb and oil shortly after. At this point I clean all of the hardware and clean and polish between the pickups. How the hell do you do *this* one string at a time? LOL!!!My guitars don't cost more than my house. Therefore, I don't need to clean and oil the fretboards every time I change strings. When that time comes, I leave both E strings on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar_allan_poe Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 My guitars don't cost more than my house. Therefore, I don't need to clean and oil the fretboards every time I change strings. When that time comes, I leave both E strings on.LOL!!! Good point. I am only changing strings about every 4-6 months depending on the season. At the end of that cycle, my guitar is completely full of gunk and sweat and the smell of smoke. A thorough cleaning is mandatory at that time.If I am not gigging with the guitar I will change the strings every 6 months just to keep them fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 gunk and sweat and the smell of smokeIn my world, that's called "natural relicing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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