bubs_42 Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I mean no harm, but $900 bucks for a 1 watt amp that does 1 tone. No thanks.
Disturber Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Yeah, love to have one for fun - but as Bubs says: to much mulla!
santellavision Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 The reviews have been stellar from England where the 1st two were released. (I'm expecting the JMP1 combo at the end of this month) They are impossible to find as most of the series has been sold out already.
crunchee Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Nice! My vote for best collectibility value is the JTM1 head, just because it looks like the 'mini me' version of a very early Marshall. It'd be interesting (to myself, anyway), if someone did a 'shootout' comparison with these alongside the old Marshall Lead 12 series. I know, apples & oranges, but still...
Disturber Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Nice! My vote for best collectibility value is the JTM1 head, just because it looks like the 'mini me' version of a very early Marshall. It'd be interesting (to myself, anyway), if someone did a 'shootout' comparison with these alongside the old Marshall Lead 12 series. I know, apples & oranges, but still... My 2 cents is that the Lead 12 can't compare. I had one for a while, bought it out of interest to check it out. I found it to be a good sounding SOLID STATE, nothing more. Totally over rated. It was nice to use it as a pre-amp into the 2104 for home playing, but that is the best use I found for it. It's a nice solid state amp and worth buying if you can get it for no more than say 45 U$ tops. The stock speaker sucks as well...It is not a tube amp by any means, it responds and feels like your run of the mill solid state amp.
santellavision Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 As a near future owner of one, I've been following as many forums as I've found on these. There's been lots of shoot-outs with Class 5's and even original amps. Everyone seems to think these are the superb. The JMP was voiced to exactly match an original early 70's JMP that one of the Marshall designers owns. Sure, it's already a collectable as they've only built a limited amount of each model and they're sold out, but I want it for home use at a decent volume. FYI, they've been reviewed as being way louder than you'd think!
crunchee Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I noticed something interesting on the specs on the first two amps, the JTM-1 (60's type) and the JMP-1 (70's type)...the JTM uses a 12AU7 (ECC82-low gain) for power, while the JMP uses a 12AT7 (ECC81-medium gain) for power. I wonder what difference it would make on the sound if you used different tubes, or put in 12AX7s (ECC83-high gain) for the power section, on either amp? BTW the pre-amp section is two 12AX7s/ECC83s on both. It doesn't appear that Marshall has released the specs yet for any of the other 1-watt amps on their website.
santellavision Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 12AX7's won't do what you think they'd do. You actually get less total wattage and volume. Here's some specs from the Marshall designer that explains it.VALVE COMPLIMENT POWER OUTPUTTotal Harmonic Distortion ECC81 (12AT7) x 2 1W 11.0%ECC81(12AT7) x 1 1W 35.0% ECC82 (12AU7) x 2 1W 5.5%ECC82 (12AU7) x 1 1W 7.4%No configuration of ECC83 (12AX7) will give the full power of 1 watt and they don't give a satisfactory option anyway IMO but for completeness here are the figures.ECC83 (12AX7) x 2 0.6W 40.0%ECC83 (12AX7) x 1 0.28W 40.0%
Brooks Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 a few more bucks will get you a 2 channel mesa mini recto w/ channel footswitch, clean/pushed/vintage/modern switchable tones, & 10w or 25w output which is loud enough to gig (yet actually sounds good at bedroom levels).
DaveH Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I mean no harm, but $900 bucks for a 1 watt amp that does 1 tone. No thanks.I don't mean any harm either, but you can get a lot of tones out of that amp. I concur on the price though, $900 is a lot of cash for that amp.
Bobby Marshall Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 If a remember correctly a 10 watt amp is half as loud as a 100 watt amp. A 1 watt amp is half as loud as a 10 watt amp. Therefore a 1 watt amp is 25% as loud as a 100 watt amp. That is a nice amp for apartment use but also works in a gig situation where your rig is miked and you have the speaker cab in front of you tilted up so you can hear stage volume. I am going to be using an early 70s jmp for a gig this week and it is a one setting amp. All my different tones are achieved with pedals. I really don't see not having channels. as a negative. Weren't all the cool amps from the 50s and 60s single channel? If it has a very similar tone to my 70s jmp 50 watt I would be interest in getting one.
kizanski Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Weren't all the cool amps from the 50s and 60s single channel?And they couldn't intonate their guitars either!
santellavision Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Nobody should have paid more than $750 for these amps. That was the street price.
Disturber Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Weren't all the cool amps from the 50s and 60s single channel? All cool amps are single channels, or two non switchable channels like early Fenders. Footswichable amps with many channels are for pussies that play in cover bands, or are in to pop music from the late 80s (like the Thomson Twins). Yes, you can pay a little more and get a Mesa, or you could pay a little less and get an original Fender Champ - I don't think that they target these amps towards players who wants something versatile. They are targetted towards those who probably own a couple of amps already, has the cash, and find these amps to be cool and usefull collectable "toys". If you pay 900 you are hardly gonna take it to a gig to get beer on it, you'd probably use it as a cool feature in a nice studio set up - or down in the man cave for the pals to envy.
Feynman Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 ^^^ I love this guy.Still, the truth hurts. Still, I want all of those.
Hackubus Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I'd love to collect all of those from that series, but...alas, it just ain't gonna happen.
edgar_allan_poe Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Footswichable amps with many channels are for pussies that play in cover bands, or are in to pop music from the late 80s (like the Thomson Twins). HEY!!! I'll have you know that I was a pussy *long* before I was in a cover band. So take *that*!!!!
kizanski Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Footswichable amps with many channels are for pussies that play in cover bands, or are in to pop music from the late 80s (like the Thomson Twins).HEY!!! I'll have you know that I was a pussy *long* before I was in a cover band.We all knew, Poe.
Ting Ho Dung Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Footswichable amps with many channels are for pussies that play in cover bands, or are in to pop music from the late 80s (like the Thomson Twins). HEY!!! I'll have you know that I was a pussy *long* before I was in a cover band. So take *that*!!!! I'm just a pussy who has never been in a band to cover anything. But my first amp was a peavey classic (50?) two channel foot switchable. Got it when I was 14 I think working for a pet store for a dollar twenty-five and hour, 1976. I didn't use the footswitch as all I liked to play was Smoke On The Water.Back to the thread. I saw these several months ago and too thought it would be cool to have them all.
edgar_allan_poe Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 We all knew, Poe.AND YOU DIDN'T TELL ME????!!!!!!!!
Brooks Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Yes, you can pay a little more and get a Mesa, or you could pay a little less and get an original Fender Champ - I don't think that they target these amps towards players who wants something versatile. They are targetted towards those who probably own a couple of amps already, has the cash, and find these amps to be cool and usefull collectable "toys". oh, a TGP'er If you pay 900 you are hardly gonna take it to a gig to get beer on it i paid more, but i will def gig my mini recto. the beer, however, will stay in the swirly gig (i actually made our bassist move his drink off my amp on 2 different rehearsals; now he puts it on the floor). actually, i had a bumbox 1 watt head for awhile, so i get the low watt single channel deal. but in the marshalls case, you are paying for the name & "collectability" (cough*ass-rape*cough)
Stike Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Yes, you can pay a little more and get a Mesa, or you could pay a little less and get an original Fender Champ - I don't think that they target these amps towards players who wants something versatile. They are targetted towards those who probably own a couple of amps already, has the cash, and find these amps to be cool and usefull collectable "toys". oh, a TGP'er If you pay 900 you are hardly gonna take it to a gig to get beer on it i paid more, but i will def gig my mini recto. the beer, however, will stay in the swirly gig (i actually made our bassist move his drink off my amp on 2 different rehearsals; now he puts it on the floor). actually, i had a bumbox 1 watt head for awhile, so i get the low watt single channel deal. but in the marshalls case, you are paying for the name & "collectability" (cough*ass-rape*cough) I'm well aware of that and not that I'm going to pay but I kind of want the JMP and the JCM 800 versions. They're cute, like rock n roll beagle puppies.
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