Putting Esquire wiring into a two pup tele?

[Tres Aardvarks]

I dug around on line, and didn't see what I was looking for. I was wondering if I could take a 5-way switch, put in a 2 pup tele, and wire it as follows:

pos1: neck pup

pos2: neck + bridge pups

pos3: bridge pup (standard tele)

pos4 + 5: the other two Esquire switch settings...

Figured if anyone had thought of how to do it, it'd be some of our wiring guys here

[velorush]

Without getting into an actual schematic, have you considered a Super Switch? You can do pretty much anything in any of the five positions because, unlike a standard 5-way, the positions in a Super Switch are independent from each other.

Sorry if you already know all about Super Switches and this is too elementary, but it's a great option with tons of possibilities. I've wired up configurations like this only to find I didn't like them. The Super Switch allows me to gut that idea and move on to another without added expense.

[Tres Aardvarks]

Nope, figured I'd ask first. If it'll fit in a tele, this should certainly let me do it!

[velorush]

If the StewMac four-pole switch won't fit in the Tele route, there is a smaller, four-pole switch by Schaller that is much thinner (but more expensive).

There's also a two-pole switch with a Fender part number. I haven't drawn out your proposed configuration, so I don't know if what you're wanting is possible with the two-pole.

[velorush]

I might have a minute to work on this. Here is an excellent drawing (not mine) of the Esquire wiring:

Seems pretty logical in your configuration that position 2 (volume and standard tone control on bridge pickup) would correspond to the middle position of the five-way switch (1, 2, 3 being standard modern Tele wiring). What would be your preference for the order of positions 4 and 5?

Seems more intuitive for position 4 of the five-way to correspond to position 3, above, and position 5 of the five-way to correspond to position 1, above.

[Tres Aardvarks]

I might have a minute to work on this. Here is an excellent drawing (not mine) of the Esquire wiring:

Seems pretty logical in your configuration that position 2 (volume and standard tone control on bridge pickup) would correspond to the middle position of the five-way switch (1, 2, 3 being standard modern Tele wiring). What would be your preference for the order of positions 4 and 5?

Seems more intuitive for position 4 of the five-way to correspond to position 3, above, and position 5 of the five-way to correspond to position 1, above.

Yeah, I'd agree P4 = volume + fixed treble rolloff, P5 = V only

[velorush]

Got a really ugly quick drawing together:

My iPhotography skills suck: I cut off the 0.47μF cap attached to the rightmost lug and then to ground on the Tone control (right side of the photo).

A cursory review leads me to believe it will do what you're looking for, but let's do some mental breadboarding and get back together in a bit.

[Tres Aardvarks]

Got a really ugly quick drawing together:

My iPhotography skills suck: I cut off the 0.47μF cap attached to the rightmost lug and then to ground on the Tone control (right side of the photo).

A cursory review leads me to believe it will do what you're looking for, but let's do some mental breadboarding and get back together in a bit.

My breadbasket sure can't trouble-shoot that! There's no big rush, I won't do this till after I finish some routing and pickguard cleanup. Had hoped to have it put back together for a jam this weekend, until I discovered some fitment issues...if it ain't one thing....

[velorush]

I'm going to leave that Picasso up because there is a rather large error in it: NO pickups in positions 4 and 5!

At lunch I was able to create an at least somewhat neater drawing that has the added benefits of pickups in all five positions (hooray!):

ETA: if any of this... semi-Picasso... is unclear, let me know. I'm glad to explain what I meant in all this scribbling. I do believe this will accomplish what you asked for in the OP.

ETAA: it appears I omitted one thing that is specific to the original Esquire wiring as presented, above: the matrix of a 3.3kΩ resistor and 0.047μF capacitor in parallel with the 0.047μF capacitor connected to lug 4 (the static treble-roll-off position). I think I'd stick with my configuration as it seems to accomplish the same thing with fewer parts. I also found a few places where the other configuration was referred to as "cocked wah" wiring and I personally wouldn't like that. YMMV - and someone more familiar with Esquire wiring could chime in and set us straight on what's what.

I just noticed another error - I originally listed the caps as 0.47μF rather than 0.047μF. I've corrected this with a bit of Photobucket trickery!

[Tres Aardvarks]

Cool, even I can follow this (I think)!!! I'll have to order the switch and get the right resistor and caps...

Thanks!