Punkavenger Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 https://reverb.com/item/17321190-friedman-runt-20-20-watt-2-channel-tube-guitar-amp-head Does anyone have an opinion on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scepter Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, Punkavenger said: Does anyone have an opinion on this? Cough cough... SPLAWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 If you want to make your head explode with all kinds of options. https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/egnater-mod50.1996302/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkavenger Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 I need something that ... A. Sounds like a blackface Princeton reverb on one channel. B. Sounds like a Marshall on the second channel. C. sounds good at low volume. D. accepts pedals well. E. Tight bass. F. vintage vintage vintage bluesy vibe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scepter Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Punkavenger said: I need something that ... A. Sounds like a blackface Princeton reverb on one channel. B. Sounds like a Marshall on the second channel. C. sounds good at low volume. D. accepts pedals well. E. Tight bass. F. vintage vintage vintage bluesy vibe Sounds like you need a modeling amp~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkavenger Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dave Scepter said: Sounds like you need a modeling amp~ Id rather die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scepter Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Punkavenger said: Id rather die Orrrrrrrrrrr you can do like I do and use 2 separate amps with a ABY Switcher... I have one amp loaded with 6V6 tubes and the other with el34s that way you get the Fender/Marshall experience... I don't know what you have in the way of amplifiers... just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Punkavenger said: I need something that ... A. Sounds like a blackface Princeton reverb on one channel. B. Sounds like a Marshall on the second channel. C. sounds good at low volume. D. accepts pedals well. E. Tight bass. F. vintage vintage vintage bluesy vibe Then buy that Egnater and look around for some modules. You will have months of fun, swapping tubes, swapping modules, it really opened my eyes to what I like and don't like, what works well together and what doesn't. You can put any octal tube in the power section and bias it yourself with a meter, the preamps are easy to swap tubes in. Its a good way to OD yourself on options without buying 10 amps. @gtrdaddy I do pretty good at not plugging my own sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 7:06 PM, Punkavenger said: I need something that ... A. Sounds like a blackface Princeton reverb on one channel. B. Sounds like a Marshall on the second channel. C. sounds good at low volume. D. accepts pedals well. E. Tight bass. F. vintage vintage vintage bluesy vibe Mesa Boogie Mark llB, the clean is pure Fender, dime it and it’s balls out sweet blues, dirt side has so much adjustment you can get about any tone you want. And they love pedals!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSII x 2 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 4:48 PM, Dave Scepter said: Cough cough... SPLAWN Love my Splawn, but still would like to try the Runt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JES1680 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Allen Accomplice 2x10 for the Fender, Morgan AC20 1x12 for the Vox, Metropoulos Metroplex and 4x12 cab for the Marshall. Gets all the tones, cheap, and easy to load out. FWIW I had the Runt 50 and liked it for a while, but it was kind of congested in the mids and that eventually made me sell it. I think Friedmans are just voiced too modern for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 The Friedman amps are quite good, however I don't think it'll really get the Fender clean and Marshall overdrive you want. The closest thing I've found what you are looking for is my Rivera amplifier. The clean channel can do a great blackface, and the lead channel does a great Marshall. It can sound great at low volumes, but like just about all tube amps, it sounds better above bedroom levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
django49 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Speaking of Mesa......The Blue Angel is a single channel, but has two different power tube sections.....6vl and el84 (or use both). Put the right drive pedal in front and I can get pretty much every tone I need. There are other relatively affordable options, such as Frenzel, that include both a "Fender" and "Marshall" preamp section in a single chassis, sometimes also with selectable output tubes. Use an ABY switch and they are very flexible. If you end up in this neck of the woods, you'd be welcome to test drive one of each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettster Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 When amp shopping last year I played both the Runt 20 and 50, there was no comparison. The 50 had a much beefier tone and punch. I thought the clean and gain channels were both pretty nice and either would cover plenty of ground. There was something kind of strange with the low end that was difficult to dial back and if memory serves me correct a rattle in the cab as well. Seems that there was a strange imbalance between the clean and lead channel that could be an issue if playing live as well. In the end, I feel I got a much better, more versatile amp in the Splawn Street Rod. Have you tried a Budda? That seems like it would be closer to what you may be looking for for lower gain type playing and everything else. Good luck in the search, that's half the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS4 FTW Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 17 hours ago, jettster said: When amp shopping last year I played both the Runt 20 and 50, there was no comparison. The 50 had a much beefier tone and punch... Just came on to say this. My brother bought a Runt 50 after initially being interested in the 20. I was with him when he was trying them out and the 50 was better in every possible way. The Guitar Center we were at also had a Splawn Street Rod; it sounded great, but the snakeskin pattern wasn't really what he was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkavenger Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Ok Ive found both a Blue Angel and Budda superdrive in the $900 range. Vote now or forever hold your peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Punkavenger said: Ok Ive found both a Blue Angel and Budda superdrive in the $900 range. Vote now or forever hold your peace Of those two, the Budda all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Budda. Don't look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 3 hours ago, MCChris said: Of those two, the Budda all day long. Ok, now we are talking. Look, I didn't push the East on you @Punkavenger but if your going to consider a Superdrive 30 then read your PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 For the record guys, SD30 over the SD18 ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. If your looking for a Budda or an East, the Budda SD18 is my least favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettster Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I've had an SD18 combo (Pre-Peavey) for 10+ years and anyone that has heard it always loves it. I thought it sounded much better after changing all of the tubes out (ECC803S) Which aren't supposed to be optimal for a combo but it's the amp that I've had the longest. They do have a tendancy to burn through power tubes more than other amps I've had but it's not like you have to replace them every 6 months or anything. I was lucky and picked it up as a brand new return for $900 online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, jettster said: I've had an SD18 combo (Pre-Peavey) for 10+ years and anyone that has heard it always loves it. I thought it sounded much better after changing all of the tubes out (ECC803S) Which aren't supposed to be optimal for a combo but it's the amp that I've had the longest. I was lucky and picked it up as a brand new return for $900 online. I really like the ECC83MG's, the ECC803's are a fine choice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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