The Shark Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, kizanski said: By showing me my old guitar which you won't sell back to me! So mean... I've been accused of being insensitive. I thought that you liked that about me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicwash Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, The Shark said: That is a FINE LOOKING guitar. Dibs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, atomicwash said: That is a FINE LOOKING guitar. Dibs? It goes back to Mike, if I ever sell it. It's just an exemplary guitar in all respects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Punkavenger said: So why all the bitterness? It just makes you seem, well ... bitter. No bitterness. Just calling a spade a spade. Sorry (not sorry) I didn't express myself like a new-age eunuch. And yeah, that Baker is a great guitar....for $350. A penny more? Hot garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 12/29/2018 at 7:21 AM, The Shark said: I like the single cut Tele-Paul guitars, but a two piece body is something I'd balk at. I like mine better and it was just north of 4K... Is that a Gustavsson...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicwash Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, The Shark said: It goes back to Mike, if I ever sell it. It's just an exemplary guitar in all respects. ALWAYS set up a sale with dibs. You can change your mind later!!! ...or not. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, atomicwash said: ALWAYS set up a sale with dibs. You can change your mind later!!! ...or not. 😉 He said that it's mine when he dies. So I'm going to kill him. How's that for dibs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhuber Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 12/28/2018 at 2:02 PM, MCChris said: As opposed to laying it directly on gravel or asphalt, or up against a truck tire? I like the guitar. The inlays are a bit hokey but I'd definitely trade my Talladega straight up for it. I agree 100% with Dutchman. Selling a guitar for +5000 and you're laying directly on paved surface? A truck tire or railroad track and railroad tie would not bother me as those are smooth surfaces. Asphalt, rock, or gravel should knock $1000 off of a $4000 guitar bringing the total to $3000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicwash Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, kizanski said: He said that it's mine when he dies. So I'm going to kill him. How's that for dibs? Good plan. After that post, you should watch Strangers on a Train. Crisscross with another HFC dibs planner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Still one of my favorite "Baker" builds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelicious Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 16 hours ago, MCChris said: "Interesting" is subjective, and yes, some of us (myself included) do take it personally because we've found Jol to be an insufferable cockhead who played a major role in torpedoing the Hamer brand. However, at the end of the day, it's all about looking at something and asking yourself, "can I justify the price of this item?" With these guitars, the answer is a resounding "no" for me. They remind me of Bakers: aesthetically unappealing, borderline clumsily executed (to my layman's eye) and damn sure not worth several thousand dollars new, let alone used. One man's opinion, worth what you paid for it (considerably less than a Baker or a Dantzig). 12 hours ago, Punkavenger said: Yes indeed. Subjective. This whole thing is subjective. I would say whoever was in charge of marketing sank the Hamer brand. If that was Jol then there is a problem there. I'm sure ,just like everyone his time at Hamer had good and bad points. I'm sure all of these expensive guitars have good and bad points as well. So why all the bitterness? It just makes you seem, well ... bitter. I'm sure there's blame to go around... but it is never a good sign when the guy who's name is on the door sells out. Still, I worked at a dealer in the mid to late 90s, and our Kaman rep was really enthusiastic about the USA end of the Hamer brand. We had Ibanez and Washburn, so we didn't really go in for the import Hamers. I always felt like they were a bad idea: don't cheapen your brand by slapping the same name on lower quality guitars (are you listening PRS?). Gibson did well in that regard with Epiphone, but I wish they had been better overall. Our higher end Gibsons sold a lot of USA Hamers, just by being an excellent yardstick to compare to! We once received a Les Paul Standard Plus or whatever they were calling it, with a neck that wasn't set straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 hours ago, atomicwash said: Good plan. After that post, you should watch Strangers on a Train. Crisscross with another HFC dibs planner. I'm not liking where this thread is going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, The Shark said: I'm not liking where this thread is going... Serves you right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 hours ago, kizanski said: Serves you right. My wife wants your number... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, The Shark said: My wife wants your number... I get that a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli'd Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I know that backdrop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 10:41 PM, Travis said: Is that a Gustavsson...? It's an Ian Anderson Standard. Don't ever do business with him. But his guitars are fantastic. Made me wait five years for a Flying V that I paid for, basically, up front. If you find one used, you owe it to yourself to try one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Not sure when the price was chopped, but now at $3900 31% off. https://reverb.com/item/13949505-dantzig-tulsa-6-2017-59-burst-nitro?adposition=none&devicemodel=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpZSd9-rl3wIViR6HCh3zzwQHEAEYASAEEgKwMvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&keyword=&matchtype=&pla=1&utm_adgroup=Retarget+-+Display+-+Site+Visitors&utm_campaign=US+-+Retarget+-+Display&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Man, I love the look of that Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Probly had to drop the price after scratching the shit outa it... 12 hours ago, Pieman said: Not sure when the price was chopped, but now at $3900 31% off. https://reverb.com/item/13949505-dantzig-tulsa-6-2017-59-burst-nitro?adposition=none&devicemodel=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpZSd9-rl3wIViR6HCh3zzwQHEAEYASAEEgKwMvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&keyword=&matchtype=&pla=1&utm_adgroup=Retarget+-+Display+-+Site+Visitors&utm_campaign=US+-+Retarget+-+Display&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerDave Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I don't think there is anything unappealing about this one: At $4,750.00 it's less money than a comparable Huber or other "uber-boutique" builder guitar. As divisive as Jol seems to be here, I don't recall anyone questioning his formidable skill at building guitars. I'd love to spend an hour or so with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, BadgerDave said: I don't think there is anything unappealing about this one: At $4,750.00 it's less money than a comparable Huber or other "uber-boutique" builder guitar. As divisive as Jol seems to be here, I don't recall anyone questioning his formidable skill at building guitars. I'd love to spend an hour or so with this one. Don't like it. Way too Washburn Idol. Actually, the Washburn is nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 13 hours ago, BadgerDave said: I don't think there is anything unappealing about this one: At $4,750.00 it's less money than a comparable Huber or other "uber-boutique" builder guitar. As divisive as Jol seems to be here, I don't recall anyone questioning his formidable skill at hiring people to build his guitars. I'd love to spend an hour or so with this one. Corrected that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaVO Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 9:52 AM, BadgerDave said: I don't think there is anything unappealing about this one: At $4,750.00 it's less money than a comparable Huber or other "uber-boutique" builder guitar. As divisive as Jol seems to be here, I don't recall anyone questioning his formidable skill at building guitars. I'd love to spend an hour or so with this one. I like that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicwash Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 8:52 AM, BadgerDave said: I don't think there is anything unappealing about this one: At $4,750.00 it's less money than a comparable Huber or other "uber-boutique" builder guitar. As divisive as Jol seems to be here, I don't recall anyone questioning his formidable skill at building guitars. I'd love to spend an hour or so with this one. If we didn't have Shishkov Custom Guitars, I would be all over that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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