crunchee Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 No affiliation, this is a PSA more out of curiosity's sake than for any other reason. I thought Collings was the only one that did a 'Doghair' finish, anybody know the story on Gibson's version? https://davesguitar.com/products/gibson/les-paul-studio-09-madison-608-405-8770/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigolsparky Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I kinda like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynic Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Probably started as a satin finish and someone did a partial refin to get that look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerteddybear Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Also known as a "cerusé" finish. Really stands out on swamp ash! Used extensively on FBass basses (I have one like this): Variations - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 EB Music Man did a special run of Luke III guitars like that. They called it Tumescent. Not really a fan, but I can see how some people would like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchee Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Somebody must've really liked it, it's been marked as sold on the DGS website. Edited to add: That finish works well over mahogany (and probably Korina too, since the wood grain's similar), but over ash...not so much, not to me anyway. Which reminds me, what is the 'Red Fox' finish over mahogany that Gibson used, IIRC back in the late '60's or early '70's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, crunchee said: Somebody must've really liked it, it's been marked as sold on the DGS website. Edited to add: That finish works well over mahogany (and probably Korina too, since the wood grain's similar), but over ash...not so much, not to me anyway. Which reminds me, what is the 'Red Fox' finish over mahogany that Gibson used, IIRC back in the late '60's or early '70's? It looks to be a similar finish, but using cherry instead of black. I'm not sure exactly how they make the finish work. Maybe it's a white grain filler, then a black stain, and they sand it back to show the white grain filler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerteddybear Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said: It looks to be a similar finish, but using cherry instead of black. I'm not sure exactly how they make the finish work. Maybe it's a white grain filler, then a black stain, and they sand it back to show the white grain filler? https://www.wikihow.com/Apply-a-Ceruse-Finish That link doesn't cover stained wood. I would stain the wood first with the pores open, then apply the ceruse finish to the pores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Wasn't that called "TV Black"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Doug Kauer has made a few... I was lucky to get this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelicious Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 6 hours ago, tbonesullivan said: It looks to be a similar finish, but using cherry instead of black. I'm not sure exactly how they make the finish work. Maybe it's a white grain filler, then a black stain, and they sand it back to show the white grain filler? If you look on Collings' site, they mention black stain and white grain filler... I imagine it'll work well on anything with large pores... it looks different on ash, but I kinda like it better than the mahogany myself... On 6/9/2019 at 3:16 PM, cynic said: Probably started as a satin finish and someone did a partial refin to get that look. My buddy absolutely loathes the "faded" Gibsons... I always tell him that he's being way too critical: half the prep work is done, they just need light sanding and a finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 8 hours ago, cmatthes said: Wasn't that called "TV Black"? Idk, but it’s a cool name. If this was an SG I’d probably be on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Carvin/Kiesel started doing an "antique ash" finish, where they would stain the whole guitar, and then sand it down. The pores of the ash grain absorb the stain much more readily, so it realy brings them out. For me though, I'm much more about translucent finishes than things like the the Epiphone "Silver Fox" and "Red Silver Fox" finishes. Of course I also don't really like solid color finishes either. To each their own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordsoftheJungle Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On 6/9/2019 at 8:20 PM, killerteddybear said: Also known as a "cerusé" finish. Really stands out on swamp ash! Used extensively on FBass basses (I have one like this): Variations - I like it! Collings uses this finish on some of their gits. I've been trying to replicate it in my shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelicious Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, LordsoftheJungle said: I like it! Collings uses this finish on some of their gits. I've been trying to replicate it in my shop. Another technique that I've heard mentioned is to use a thin coat of black paint and then to fill with contrasting grain filler. A little more pronounced... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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