cynic Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Thought some here would enjoy shitting on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorrow Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 The wait will be looooooooooooong... 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJ Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 If he builds it, it won't sound or play any better, but it'll be pretty, well built, and cost a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyboy-UK Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Not sure if Nick Huber received the templates yet to start knocking them out for for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo175 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Much ado about nothing IMHO. I suppose if you wanted a slightly more authentic and vastly more expensive Cali than, say, one of the imports, you'd be justified in ordering one. But while Jol may have designed the Cali, whatever mojo was infused into those beauties came from the craftsmen in the shop and that DNA, Shishkov notwithstanding, is gone. Honestly, if I wanted a fairly spot on replica of a Cali, I'd have Shane at HEL Guitars build it. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 "Just wait." Hey, you know that riddle which begins, "How do you keep an asshole in suspense?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 hours ago, FGJ said: If he builds it, it won't sound or play any better, but it'll be pretty, well built, and cost a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningyen Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Bennyboy-UK said: Not sure if Nick Huber received the templates yet to start knocking them out for for him What? Is Nik building for Jol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, burningyen said: What? Is Nik building for Joel? FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli'd Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Shishkov Super-C for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, soli'd said: Shishkov Super-C for the win. Exactly. While this pretentious douche is telling people to "wait," Mike Shishkov is building masterpiece after masterpiece. And all the while proving to be one of the nicest persons with whom you will ever interact."Just wait while I finish up this custom ordered Condor." GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJ Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I personally don't care for the Super C design aesthetic. I like the carved arch top on some guitars like the Newport, but that carved top style just doesn't appeal to me in a super-Strat style guitar. I think having started out playing a Fender Strat, I've become conditioned to prefer bolt-on necks, 25.5" scale length, maple fretboard, and non-arched tops where anything Strat-style is concerned. Heck, it even took me a bit to get used to the sharper creased edges of the Californian when I first got it. I was so used to the way Fender Strats and even my Kramer with its soft edges and curved body just seemed to melt around me. The Cali seemed sharp in comparison, though now I'm so used to it, it's my favorite thing to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Custom Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 While I've disagreed with Jol on a number of things, he was a visionary that was on the forefront of the boutique market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo175 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 4:11 AM, FGJ said: I personally don't care for the Super C design aesthetic. I like the carved arch top on some guitars like the Newport, but that carved top style just doesn't appeal to me in a super-Strat style guitar. I think having started out playing a Fender Strat, I've become conditioned to prefer bolt-on necks, 25.5" scale length, maple fretboard, and non-arched tops where anything Strat-style is concerned. Heck, it even took me a bit to get used to the sharper creased edges of the Californian when I first got it. I was so used to the way Fender Strats and even my Kramer with its soft edges and curved body just seemed to melt around me. The Cali seemed sharp in comparison, though now I'm so used to it, it's my favorite thing to play. Aesthetically, the Super C doesn't appeal to me either. I am completely in awe of Mike's artistry and craftsmanship on the 2 Super C's I've seen and played. In some ways, I think the Super C is superior to the Cali but will add the caveat: without a standard, bench line model to put head to head, that's a tough call. Acknowledging it's purely subjective nature, I'd take the shape of the Cali with it's flatter surface and nice rounded body edges any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Yeah, and to be clear, I didn't mean to suggest the Super C isn't an incredibly well built guitar. I'm sure Mike really dedicates the same awesome craftsmanship to that as to anything he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBraz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I love Cali's and Super C's. I own both. The Super-C was a deliberate design departure from the Cali whilst retaining its playfulness. I prefer the size of the Super-C in that it, for some reason, sits a little more comfortably. When I first spoke to Mike about a Shishkov "Cali" I specifically wanted a carved top similar to the Kellerfornian from years ago but with a humbucker and a trem. Once he got started Mike wanted to sculpt the back of the guitar, the headstock and before I knew it we had a "Super Cali". Tone wise, as Jim pointed out, its hard to compare. I will say that the Super-C 1 (1 piece maple body, set wenge neck) is noticeably less edgy than the bolt-on Cali FM. My second one, Korina body/quilt top/wenge set neck is sweeter, particularly in the upper register, but not noticeably warmer. If that makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamerhead Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 To me, Mike's Super C is the logical evolution of the Cali, much like the DC is the evolution of the Studio. Familiar but different, kinda like the next version of your car or bub's pedalboard. Mike should have been running Hamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, hamerhead said: Mike should have been running Hamer. He would have spent less time building the guitars if he had been running the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Steve Haynie said: He would have spent less time building the guitars if he had been running the company. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasein Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Jol popped up in a Cali thread on the facebook group... perhaps more evidence he's looking a hot rod Cali type concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasein Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 7:12 AM, DBraz said: I love Cali's and Super C's. I own both. The Super-C was a deliberate design departure from the Cali whilst retaining its playfulness. I prefer the size of the Super-C in that it, for some reason, sits a little more comfortably. When I first spoke to Mike about a Shishkov "Cali" I specifically wanted a carved top similar to the Kellerfornian from years ago but with a humbucker and a trem. Once he got started Mike wanted to sculpt the back of the guitar, the headstock and before I knew it we had a "Super Cali". Tone wise, as Jim pointed out, its hard to compare. I will say that the Super-C 1 (1 piece maple body, set wenge neck) is noticeably less edgy than the bolt-on Cali FM. My second one, Korina body/quilt top/wenge set neck is sweeter, particularly in the upper register, but not noticeably warmer. If that makes sense... I love this Super "C"..... just such a nice guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeboy Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I really dig the Super-C look.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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