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Anyone have the June 1998 Issue of Guitar World? Looking for the Kashmir transcription....

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As part of my research into Kashmir (my next project) I'm digging into all the available transcriptions and scores to see how they have evolved or changed over the years - the only one I'm missing is the June 1998 issue of Guitar World which (I think) had the first ever transcription. Anyone have this issue  or a pdf of that specific transcription? I think it was an all Jimmy issue.

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I remembered that cover so I thought I might have it. Alas, I do not. Good luck with your search. 

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Here's a little mock up of the song arrangement as I work things out....

 

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I have it.  I'm away from home right now, but I can probably get it to you next week.

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Cool man - thanks @tommy p just want to write a little meta history of the transcriptions and the peak then decline in quality.... 

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On 9/12/2019 at 5:30 PM, Dasein said:

Cool man - thanks @tommy p just want to write a little meta history of the transcriptions and the peak then decline in quality.... 

Do you think there's been an overall trend of reduction in quality as the quantity of alternative content has increased?  That transcribers are getting squeezed out of doing a good job?  Or is it more of a rise-and-fall of Kashmir's popularity that you think is contributing to this?

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I'm not sure - I suspect it's an overall decrease in quality across the board which puzzles me considering the tools to listen to and hear the actual guitar parts are so readily available. I think transcriptions used to be a labour of love, now I think they get turned out boiler-room style....  I'm trying to track down all the Kashmir transcriptions out there and just compare the evolution...  I noticed this with the Stairway transcriptions too.... at some point they started to suddenly get "simpler" and lose info.... went from dual (tab and traditional notation with rhythms charted out) to tab only, suggested rhythms, and lots of "repeat this part 5 times" stuff that ignored variations..... 

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Transcriptions, accurate or not, serve as guidelines. It helps if you can read music for note values, etc.

Ultimately you have to rely on your ear to sniff out the nuances. How many transcriptions of, “Smoke on the Water” have the intro played as barre chords, instead of plucked double-stops? I’ve yet to see an accurate tab/music of, “Cliffs of Dover”, “Bron-y-Aur”...YouTube is a great resource for videos that are obsessively researched/played, an excellent way to check against printed transcriptions. 

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2 minutes ago, RobB said:

YouTube is a great resource for videos that are obsessively researched/played, an excellent way to check against printed transcriptions. 

 I hear that lately a lot of the educational YouTube channels are getting shut down for copyright infraction by record labels. 

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22 hours ago, RobB said:

Transcriptions, accurate or not, serve as guidelines. It helps if you can read music for note values, etc.

Ultimately you have to rely on your ear to sniff out the nuances. How many transcriptions of, “Smoke on the Water” have the intro played as barre chords, instead of plucked double-stops? I’ve yet to see an accurate tab/music of, “Cliffs of Dover”, “Bron-y-Aur”...YouTube is a great resource for videos that are obsessively researched/played, an excellent way to check against printed transcriptions. 

YouTube is probably of more value in seeing how people play things wrongly vs correctly (at least in my travels). It can be incredibly hard to find lessons or covers on YouTube that are N4N accurate - but it certainly helps the ear in learning identify what's wrong - they usually stick out like a sore thumb. But I like to dive into it all as I do my research because occasionally you'll find the gems. In TYG I didn't find a single guy who played the rhythm behind the solo section correctly - until I found one guy who got it mostly correct (about 80%). I took it a step further to about 95%.... Not that it's bad to play something close or similar -- but when going for N4N there's no substitute -- the devil is in the detail. Here's where Kashmir is at now -- getting much closer to the sound of the mix as well as the orchestration --- no transcriptions for that anywhere (the odd approximation coupled with full orchestral arrangements but nothing N4N specific).  But It's all for fun and developing my production chops and my ear.......an exercise in thoroughness basically - that last 5 to 10% that most players usually say "fuck it -- close enough".... that's where I'm trying to go. No more "fuck its".

 

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