Bill Buck Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Greetings!! I've been looking to purchase a USA-made Hamer Standard guitar for many years now ... seven, going on eight, to be exact. Timing seems to be my biggest hurdle -- by the time I become aware of a guitar for sale, it has been sold to someone else (usually same day, or even within minutes of my inquiry). So with suggestion, I am posting a "WTB" thread on here... In a perfect world, here are my instrument preferences : - Sunburst over plain top - Flame (or some figured) Maple top over plain - Dark Sunburst over Cherry - Trapzoid inlays over dot - Bound neck/body over not My comfortable price range for purchase is up-to $3500. A guitar $4k and up would require some lengthy planning, and usually in that instance, the instrument is long gone. I would also consider a Shishkov Ultimate (at the sellers price). I also feel the selling price should be "fair and reasonable." One example is a "friend" of mine who purchased a Standard for $1350 and then so kindly offered to flip it to me for $3500!! Sorry, scenarios like that are just ridiculous. So that's it, really. I am hoping that my inquiry post here can change what is heading towards a decade of pure, rotten luck. Cheers, "Berklee" Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bill Buck said: One example is a "friend" of mine who purchased a Standard for $1350 and then so kindly offered to flip it to me for $3500!! Sorry, scenarios like that are just ridiculous. Yeah, we have a couple of friends like that here, too, but you should be able to get what you're looking for. Welcome to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disturber Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 This is what you need. Buy it now. You won't find one again at this price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyboy-UK Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Disturber said: This is what you need. Buy it now. You won't find one again at this price. Welcome This was the selling I post I reckoned would suit you down to the ground Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashedman Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Those that have... those that want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM OF HAMER Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Welcome ! That is a fine looking guitar! Great color and flame top and it has some honest playwear that gives it the vibe of a cool well played guitar.It's calling you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Buck Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, trashedman said: Those that have... those that want... Those that have been trying unsuccessfully for 7 years and counting.... 🥵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velorush Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 In an effort to inform, Mr. Buck, are you aware of the dichotomy between the "four digit" Hamer Standards and the production Hamer Standards? If you are, great; if not, that might be a great place to start as the (four-digit) suggestion, above, is actually a deal at $4,000, whereas that price for a production Standard might be considered out of market. An informative post from Serial (he quite literally wrote the book): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.bandini Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Good luck, BB! I bet your note results in someone offering you something you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustKid Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Bill Buck said: I also feel the selling price should be "fair and reasonable." One example is a "friend" of mine who purchased a Standard for $1350 and then so kindly offered to flip it to me for $3500!! Sorry, scenarios like that are just ridiculous. Welcome! I understand "fair and reasonable part". But, if someone offers you what you are looking for, for $3500 and it made you happy, but later on you find out that that someone bought it for, say, $350, would you think that he is a bad person? I think if you are ready to pay certain amount for what you like, it shouldn't bother you, how much the person, who sells it to you, paid for it. That's the way I personally see it. And keep in mind, a lot of folks here paid for their Hamers fraction of what the market price is right now, I paid for one of my setneck Cali's $450, it's $100 more than HFC approved price, but still not bad. On the positive side - $3500 is more than enough to find a decent Standard. You'll find it. ( note: I do not plan on selling...just thinking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Buck Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 hours ago, JustKid said: Welcome! I understand "fair and reasonable part". But, if someone offers you what you are looking for, for $3500 and it made you happy, but later on you find out that that someone bought it for, say, $350, would you think that he is a bad person? I think if you are ready to pay certain amount for what you like, it shouldn't bother you, how much the person, who sells it to you, paid for it. That's the way I personally see it. And keep in mind, a lot of folks here paid for their Hamers fraction of what the market price is right now, I paid for one of my setneck Cali's $450, it's $100 more than HFC approved price, but still not bad. On the positive side - $3500 is more than enough to find a decent Standard. You'll find it. ( note: I do not plan on selling...just thinking) Since you asked... the guitar in question was a stock 1996 Standard with a mahogany body that was purchased from this board. A quick review of my “build criteria” listed in my base note will detail this guitar isn’t really what I am looking for. The gentleman who purchased it is a blues player who only plays Strats and Teles. He jumped in a good deal (and good for him), but to offer it to me — his “friend” — for twice what the market price is for that model Standard was insulting to me. I mean, this dude could have sold it for $2k and still made $650 off his investment. As a moderator of this forum so eloquently commented, “$3500 is egregious.” It’s an $1800 guitar all day long. 🤷🏼♂️ I’m not miserly. But if I’m dropping that kind of coin, I would ay least like it to be in the ballpark of what I’m searching for. I’m simply looking for that one “forever guitar” to own and gig with. 👍🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynic Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I have a US Standard. No flame, no neck binding, no trapezoid inlays. However, it’s none more black with boomer inlays. It was supposed to have neck binding but it looks much better without given the boomers. Oh, and it’s a 4 digit that had some work done at the factory to return it to something more similar to its origins. Please PM if you have questions or are interested. Since it’s your WTB there’s no pressure to rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Welcome to the boards “Berklee” Bill! There are great chances to find a Standard on the boards within 7 years. I love them Standards too. And I can confirm Standards are excellent guitars. Since you are on the boards, there is always the chance to PM member @HamStd. Quite often he has something to offer people say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustKid Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 12 hours ago, Bill Buck said: the guitar in question was a stock 1996 Standard with a mahogany body ………. It’s an $1800 guitar all day long. Agreed! 11 hours ago, cynic said: I have a US Standard. No flame, no neck binding, no trapezoid inlays. However, it’s none more black with boomer inlays. Damn, that sounds super hot!!! Don't think I ever saw Standard with boomers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I remember the good old days of the late 90s when it seemed you could score Standards and Standard Customs on eBay for $800 to $1400 every day. Now, you seldom see them for sale, unless they’re $3500 to $8000 on Reverb - and the ones that are on Reverb have been there quite a while. I think when one comes up for $2000 to $3000 it gets grabbed right away, like you said. Like I said, the market has dried up, though - people who have them must be hanging on to them. Hang in there - hopefully you’ll get lucky soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 hours ago, JustKid said: Agreed! Damn, that sounds super hot!!! Don't think I ever saw Standard with boomers. You have now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustKid Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 My eyes transmitted this image into my brain and somewhere deep in there there was an orgasm. I think I'm ready for my next purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyboy-UK Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 13 hours ago, cmatthes said: You have now... pft... looks shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Buck Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 That looks cool, actually. Very unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Had this one out tonight, much to my neighbors’ dismay...they really are THAT good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorch Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Playing time with mine for quite some weeks. Freshly restringed two days ago. Center in pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugalo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 5:11 PM, cmatthes said: You have now... I would buy that right now... and BB your quest seems very do-able, just hang in there. I have been seeking a Black bound and crowned since 2005 and had a couple slip through my fingers, still looking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustKid Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Just saw it today, looks like ended 2 days ago. Very good price too https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/hamer-standard-explorer-usa-1101173536/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugalo Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 OP... Have you had any bites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devnor Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 5:39 PM, JustKid said: My eyes transmitted this image into my brain and somewhere deep in there there was an orgasm. I think I'm ready for my next purchase. TMI Dave's pics are so much nicer than mine but here's what it looks like today. I'm aware of 2 others then there's the greenburst boomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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