Bobby Marshall Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Is it just me or is this cultural misappropriation?https://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/shape/soloist/limited-edition-wildcard-series-soloist-arch-top-extreme-sl27-ex/2918329557 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Hey, why not? I'd hit that. I'm sure they'll succeed where Hamer didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo175 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Meh. I had considered ordering this. And while the real deal Orig. Floyd, reversed head stock and toggle switch are appealing, the white p'ups (not a fan of Super D's either), the made in Korea, the control layout, the neck binding and the lack of fret markers leave me cold. Had to learn that the hard way with my C3 re: binding (still pissed I opted for that even though it looks classy) and the HEL Willy G. Standard/Interceptor re: fret inlays. Like the binding, it looks cool but if you're used to rolled, unbound edges or using fret inlays to help visually navigate the neck, those can be problematic. But truthfully, the biggest factor is: it will never be as good as the 8 USA Cali's I have currently. Period. If Jackson wants to send me one to try against my Cali's, I'll gladly accept but otherwise, this is just a really nifty looking and well appointed wanna be Cali. And it would be flipped (for a loss) in a few months time because it wouldn't measure up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcald Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Well, Gibson got knocked down for claiming that. Only the headstock can be claimed, or that was my recollection/understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Marshall Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 They said these specs were only previously available through the custom shop so all you custom shoppers can get a USA Jackson with these specs plus or minus to taste (except no boomers). But of course, a boomered Californian or Virtuoso would be the ultimate ;). i would imagine the boomer inlays are copyrighted ©? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMERMAN Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, diablo175 said: Meh. I had to laugh when I saw that because I was thinking the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Bobby Marshall said: i would imagine the boomer inlays are copyrighted ©? Dang, I would hope so! I’m sure the designer is swamped with licensing requests from players wanting check marks between their frets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devnor Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 To be honest it really looks more like a Pensa-Suhr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topekatj Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 22 hours ago, Bobby Marshall said: Is it just me or is this cultural misappropriation?https://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/shape/soloist/limited-edition-wildcard-series-soloist-arch-top-extreme-sl27-ex/2918329557 Any color you want, as long as it's BLUE SPARKLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJ Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 At least they aligned the neck pup with the end of the fretboard. I don't know if it'll sound better, but it looks better. Otherwise, meh. A lot of stuff hanging on GC's walls look "pretty", but after I pick it up off the wall, it feels cheap. I'd rather have a beater that's been around and plays like a nicely broken-in pair of sneakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJ Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 For almost 2Gs, and it's made in Asia? Why the high price for an import? Maybe if it were made in Japan, but otherwise, I don't see why it costs so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynic Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, FGJ said: For almost 2Gs, and it's made in Asia? Why the high price for an import? That's my issue...there are used USA options for the same money. The Asia market has been climbing though, especially when equipped with Made in USA electronics and better than average import hardware. I fell into the trap when Reverend released these because it was different enough that it seemed to scratch a few different itches. Turns out I really like the guitar, so it had a happy ending. The only downside, and it's a big one, is having to deal with Fishman's rechargeable battery pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcald Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, FGJ said: For almost 2Gs, and it's made in Asia? Why the high price for an import? Maybe if it were made in Japan, but otherwise, I don't see why it costs so much. Ultimately, I'm assuming so they can charge more for the US made stuff. PRS is charging $1500 for their Made in China SE Hollowbody II Piezo: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SEHB2PPB--prs-se-hollowbody-ii-piezo-peacock-blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcald Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, FGJ said: For almost 2Gs, and it's made in Asia? Why the high price for an import? Maybe if it were made in Japan, but otherwise, I don't see why it costs so much. Caparison guitars are $2600 and up and Made in Japan. That's why stuff moved to Korea, then China, and I think some stuff is getting made in Vietnam and India now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJ Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 At those prices, may as well make them here at home (although, anything made here in SoCal is probably not much different than "Made in Mexico", because it's likely the same workers building them unless you're getting something made in a custom shop). If I were going to spend that much on a guitar, it'd better be made here, in Japan, or be some valuable used gear that I really want. I'd buy another beat-up used Cali before I ever bought that Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Custom Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 6 hours ago, FGJ said: For almost 2Gs, and it's made in Asia? Why the high price for an import? Maybe if it were made in Japan, but otherwise, I don't see why it costs so much. Ask Lexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamerCustomEr Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 6:28 PM, diablo175 said: Had to learn that the hard way with my C3 re: binding (still pissed I opted for that even though it looks classy) Sorry, what did you learn the hard way from the binding? You didn't like it for some reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo175 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, HamerCustomEr said: Sorry, what did you learn the hard way from the binding? You didn't like it for some reason? Yep. I learned that I am not a fan of bound necks. They look great but I generally find them to be less comfortable than the more rounded board edges on unbound necks. To me, they are the guitar equivalent of ivory or pearl handles on a pistol- they look distinctive but do they really impact the handling and accuracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamerCustomEr Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Good analogy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 11:21 AM, diablo175 said: Yep. I learned that I am not a fan of bound necks. They look great but I generally find them to be less comfortable than the more rounded board edges on unbound necks. To me, they are the guitar equivalent of ivory or pearl handles on a pistol- they look distinctive but do they really impact the handling and accuracy? I hear ya. I only have one guitar left with a bound neck, my Charvel. If my son doesn’t want it, I’ll probably be buried with it... actually, that’s not true. I would rather be cremated. And I told @JGravelin after he wound the pickups for it that if my son doesn’t want it, I’ll put it in my will for him to get it. 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynic Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 11:21 AM, diablo175 said: I learned that I am not a fan of bound necks. Hamer taught me this lesson, first with the Talladega and then with their inability (thankfully) to follow directions when restoring 0227 (I asked for binding, they forgot to add it). It's not a strong preference, but unbound necks with small inlays are my jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJ Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I don't care one way or the other as far as looks go, but I like the feel of the bound neck on my Newport which has the fret-end nibs bound as well. I suppose if it felt like a sharply creased edge I wouldn't like it, but it isn't uncomfortable at all (unlike bound bodies which irritate my forearm when it rests against the sharply creased binding for too long). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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