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My '14 Fender "Sandblasted" Tele (which I believe has a American Special/Performer neck) measures .83" at the 1st fret and .89" at the 12th fret according to DGS, and feels comfy to me...but I wouldn't want it much smaller than that; so .82" at the 1st and .84" at the 10th fret doesn't sound too bad.  The thing I couldn't get along with on early-mid '80's Hamer necks was the narrow width, which I think is narrower than the 1 5/8" nut width seen on some vintage and vintage reissue guitars (I could be wrong about the neck width though, please correct me if I am), and is kinda like a mid-late '60's Gibson neck.  Does anybody know what Ibanez Wizard neck specs are in comparison?

Of course, regardless of the neck size, the asking price is way too high IMO.  Don't forget: "Askin' ain't sellin'".

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Salient question is, which Wizard?

Found this on Ibanez Wiki (25.4 mm to the inch, of course - Formatting on the paste makes it a bit wonky):

Neck type                        Years    Scale length Width at nut Width at last fret Thickness at 1st fret Thickness at 12th fret Radius
Super Wizard 1999 648mm/ 25½"         43mm               56mm                               17mm                                20mm           430mmR/ 17"
2017–2020 648mm/ 25½"         43mm               58mm                               17mm                                19mm           430mmR/ 17"
Super Wizard J Custom 2012 648mm/ 25½"         43mm               58mm                               17mm                                19mm           430mmR/ 17"
Super Wizard HP Prestige 2010–2020 648mm/ 25½"         43mm               58mm                               17mm                                19mm           430mmR/ 17"
Super Wizard Prestige 2003–2004 648mm/ 25½"         43mm               56mm                               17mm                                19mm           430mmR/ 17"
2009 648mm/ 25½"         43mm               58mm                               17mm                                19mm           430mmR/ 17"

 

Neck type                        Years                   Scale length Width at nut Width at last fret Thickness at 1st fret Thickness at 12th fret Radius
Wizard 1989–1993 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 57mm 17mm 20mm 430mmR/ 17"
1997–2002 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 56mm 17mm 20mm 430mmR/ 17"
2007 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 56mm 18mm 20mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard 27" 2001–2002 686mm/ 27" 43mm 56mm 18mm 20.5mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard HP Prestige 2010–2019 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 58mm 18mm 20mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard HP Prestige RGD 2010–2012 672mm/ 26½" 43mm 58mm 18mm 20mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard HP-7 2015–2016 648mm/ 25.5" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard miKro 2014 577.8mm/ 22.75" 45mm 58mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
Wizard Premium 2011–2020 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 58mm 18mm 20mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard Prestige 2003 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 56mm 17mm 20mm 430mmR/ 17"
2005–2009 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 58mm 18mm 20mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard II 1997–2002 648mm/ 25.5" 43mm 56mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
2004 648mm/ 25.5" 43mm 56mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
2005–2009 648mm/ 25.5" 43mm 56mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
2010 648mm/ 25.5" 43mm 58mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
Wizard II (RGD) 2010 672mm/ 26.5" 43mm 58mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
Wizard II-7 2004–2009 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 65mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
2010–2020 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard II-7 (JBM) 2016–2020 673.5mm/ 26½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard II-7 (RGD) 2011 672mm/ 26.5" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard II-8 2010 686mm/ 27" 55mm 80mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
2011–2014 686mm/ 27" 55mm 80mm 20mm 21.5mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
2017–2019 686mm/ 27" 55mm 80mm 20mm 21.5mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard II Prestige 2005–2008 648mm/ 25.5" 43mm 56mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
Wizard III 2001 648mm/ 25½" 42mm 56mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
2011–2020 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 58mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard III (26½") 2015 673.5mm/ 26½" 43mm 57mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
Wizard III (DTT)Wizard III (26½") 2011 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 57mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
Wizard III (RGD) 2011 672mm/ 26.5" 43mm 58mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15.75"
Wizard III-XH 2013–2014 648mm/ 25½" 43mm 58mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard III-7 Multi Scale 2018–2020 686mm/ 27" – 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard III-8 Multi Scale 2018–2020 692mm/ 27¼"" – 648mm/ 25½" 55mm 80mm 20mm 21.5mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard-7 2013–2016 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard-7 J Custom 1999 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 66mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
2012 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard-7 Premium 2011–2019 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
Wizard-7 27" Prestige 2001–2002 686mm/ 27" 48mm 65mm 21.5mm 23mm 430mmR/ 17"
2003, 2019–2020 686mm/ 27" 48mm 66mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard-7 Prestige 2003–2004 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 66mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
2009–2020 648mm/ 25½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard-7 Prestige RGD 2010 673.5mm/ 26½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 400mmR/ 15¾"
2011 673.5mm/ 26½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
2017–2019 673.5mm/ 26½" 48mm 68mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard-8 2019–2020 686mm/ 27" 55mm 80mm 19mm 21mm 430mmR/ 17"
Wizard-9 Prestige 2014–2016 686mm/ 28" 62mm 88mm 21.5mm 23.5mm 1000mmR/ 39⅜"
Wizard-9 2014–2018 712mm/ 28" 62mm 88mm 21.5mm 23.5mm 950mmR/ 37½"

 

The early 17mm thickness at the first fret is 0.669"; 19mm is 0.748"; the later 21mm thickness equates to 0.827"  - 'splains why I loved the look of Ibanez guitars in the '80's but wound up buying the Charvel.

The common 43mm Nut Width equates to about 1 11/16

 

 

 

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I know this guitar very well.  First, want to mention that that spot by the bridge is in the finish only.  There isn't a structural issue. For those that have owned or closely observed a Miller guitar and the sustain block bridge area have seen the same issue with the finish.

Neck-wise It isn't a skinny neck at all, has the feel of an '80 Sunburst. It is not the "vintage cut" from the 90's-2000's but it is definitely not an '81 Special skinny style neck. 

Peter

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  • 3 weeks later...
On 8/25/2020 at 4:49 PM, hamerhead said:

Stupid COOL paddle headstock.  ice.

 it's awesome!

Mick told me to fix that for you.

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Oh dang! It's times like this I keep trying to remember what separates a Blitz from a Standard, aside from the fact that they are both not Vectors.

Thinner body?

That is quite a looker, but my love for Hamer Doublecuts just got worse.

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55 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said:

Oh dang! It's times like this I keep trying to remember what separates a Blitz from a Standard, aside from the fact that they are both not Vectors.

Thinner body?

 

 

Blitzes were built at the regular factory, not by Monty or McHugh. Different neck joint. Etc.

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