79Sunburst Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ua D Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Is it for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Piper is a cool band. I think Bill Aucoin managed them briefly. Similar to Sweeney Todd (Nick Gilder). Canada had some good bands in the 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79Sunburst Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Ua D said: Is it for sale? I apologize, not that I am aware. I mostly read the board and this was my first post. I intended to post this on the main discussion forum. Not sure of the year but I saw them open for KISS in 1978 and he had it so I am assuming it is a 76-78 . I asked about it and he sent me the pic. It was the first Hamer I had seen live and the 3 pickups always made it a special Standard to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disturber Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Ace Frehley should have played that one!! The tailpiece looks like it is place waaay back, compared to on a normal 4-digit Standard. Usually the tailpeice is placed next to the neck volume control. This looks like it is place down next to the bridge volume control. What is up with that? And 4-digits have the bridge pup closer to the bridge than later Standards. Hamer put the pickup with the same distance to the bridge as on the 1950's Explorers. This makes 4-digits a bit bright on the bridge pup. But on this one the bridge pickup seems to be placed right by the bridge. That will be super bright. Still, a very cool guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79Sunburst Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Disturber said: Ace Frehley should have played that one!! The tailpiece looks like it is place waaay back, compared to on a normal 4-digit Standard. Usually the tailpeice is placed next to the neck volume control. This looks like it is place down next to the bridge volume control. What is up with that? And 4-digits have the bridge pup closer to the bridge than later Standards. Hamer put the pickup with the same distance to the bridge as on the 1950's Explorers. This makes 4-digits a bit bright on the bridge pup. But on this one the bridge pickup seems to be placed right by the bridge. That will be super bright. Still, a very cool guitar. Wow! Didn't even notice. You're right. I have a photo showing the headstock. I think it has the arena logo. I'll try to post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mirrorimij Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I wonder if they placed the tailpiece like that for the same reason Jol did it on the TOM/STOP Newport? That is very interesting thank you for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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79Sunburst Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 I just noticed that he no longer has the poker chip around the toggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigolsparky Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I saw Piper open up for Kiss. The mix reminded me of sticking my head in a jet engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew816 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Cool axe! The tailpiece further to the back was a "thing" in the 70s. You'd see a lot of trap tail 330/335s/Sheratons converted to stud like this. Once Larry Carlton did it, well... WHY the further back location, the age old question. Some claim Larry had it placed back where the original Trapeze ended to not alter the tone. Others claim he liked the sustain of the stud but didn't want to alter the string tension and feel. Others claim it was the Illuminati planning ahead giving Gibson yet another artist limited edition guitar they could overcharge for. 😉 Not sure if this is why it was done in this case with the Piper Standard, but ya know, guitar "fads" come and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 hours ago, 79Sunburst said: 12 minutes ago, Drew816 said: Not sure if this is why it was done in this case with the Piper Standard, but ya know, guitar "fads" come and go. Ruins the look of an otherwise outrageous 4-digit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialk Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, kizanski said: Ruins the look of an otherwise outrageous 4-digit. He's thinking ahead is all, in case he needs a 4th PU. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, specialk said: He's thinking ahead is all, in case he needs a 4th PU. 😁 Right. For those EVH behind the bridge Intruder sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 What does the factory headstock personalization read? I can't tell - it's a bit blurry on my monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79Sunburst Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, cmatthes said: What does the factory headstock personalization read? I can't tell - it's a bit blurry on my monitor. I want to know this also. I thought it was a sticker. I will ask him and see if he responds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79Sunburst Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 3:03 AM, cmatthes said: What does the factory headstock personalization read? I can't tell - it's a bit blurry on my monitor. He sent me a close-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79Sunburst Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 He responded to the speculation and questions about the tail piece being farther back. #0030. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I need an interpreter for that. Like reading the script for a Guy Ritchie movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79Sunburst Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 Replace "are" with " and" it will make perfect sense. Damn autocorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, 79Sunburst said: Replace "are" with " and" it will make perfect sense. "Perfect sense"? You sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialk Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, kizanski said: "Perfect sense"? You sure about that? Replace "perfect" with "better" and it will make perfect sense. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79Sunburst Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, kizanski said: "Perfect sense"? You sure about that?l Here is his 335. Never seen one with 3 humbuckers before either. He recorded the first Piper album on this. I kinda see why he had the tailpiece on the Standard positioned that way. He was used to it on his 335. Using his palm to tremolo the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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