black magic Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 As far as Death Metal goes, there has been many styles and era`s of it and I liked the early stuff. As to who started it, not quite sure, but there is always a consensus and debate that it was either Death or Possessed. I love both band, but only Death`s first 3 albums, after that they got really strange and less thrashy/speed type death metal. As for Djent, that makes my skin crawl as much as rap does-yuck!! Can throw all of the cookie mobster death metal singers in there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menehune Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Be-Bop Deluxe : Inventive themes and stories played out through theatrical musical scenes using composition, musicianship and production values that eclipsed most other art-school-sprung prog rockers. Still iconic. And Bill Nelson is a hellofa melodic guitarist. Marshal Crenshaw : His debut 1982 album laid bare plaintive schoolboy heartache expressed in upbeat catchy hooks hung on the strings of a reverb'd Strat, basic percussion, and bass. He strongly influenced New Wave with both his songwriting and that trio's sparse, open instrumentation. Although Holly influenced Crenshaw, this wasn't Buddy Holly redux; I hear it as Crenshaw's modern take on the blues' bared emotions. Van Halen : Yeah, there are hundreds of bands pushing a party-band shtick, but Van Halen came by that identity authentically and honestly. They own that genre. My close second is the first Montrose album, coincidentally featuring the Red Rocker on vocals, and produced by Ted Templeman to give it, like the first Van Halen album, that fiercely live, in-your-face sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudshark Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Fela Kuti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79Sunburst Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 5:33 PM, Willie G. Moseley said: Rush: "Hard progressive"? Steely Dan: "Intellectual rock'"? Tears For Fears might also fit into this category but they could be perceived as too, er, emotional... Mother's Finest: "Power funk" (I've seen this used, as well as "funk rock") Founded in 1972. To what extent have the RHCPs acknowledged any influence? Johnny A.: Darned if I know what his stuff should be called...(was listening to One November Night earlier today, which inspired this post) YMMV Others? Steely Dan: Ennui Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGale Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 1:17 PM, Toadroller said: I'm not quite sure how to follow the premise of the thread. Doesn't unique = genre of one? Simply strolling through my own tastes, many of the artists have their own style. The Cowboy Junkies have their own thing Thomas Dolby is unique There ain't nothing like Queen Ah... Devo, St. Vincent, Aimee Mann, Janelle Monae, Prince, Rickie Lee Jones, Monk, U2, Robbie Robertson, etc. There are plenty of bands that can be tossed into genres like Hair Metal (Ratt, Dokken, Motely Crew and all the hangers-on that came in just a minute too late in 87-90) 🤷♂️ Came here for Thomas Dolby. Was not disappointed. Paul Simon with Graceland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie G. Moseley Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 Joe Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camstone Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Django Rheinhardt = Gypsy Jazz and perhaps the earliest shredder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomteriffic Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 The Band: Country Funk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Prof Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 2:20 AM, 79Sunburst said: Steely Dan: Ennui Rock I've actually heard that same term applied to the Dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Prof Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Willie G. Moseley said: Joe Jackson My band just added this one to our set list. I love the dynamics and the sardonic lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie G. Moseley Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 ^^^The somewhat primeval video for "Mad At You" (from which the image on my Joe Jackson nomination post is culled) remains a personal favorite on accounta 40 years later it's still cynical and hilarious at the same time. Wonder if he was inspired by Roger Daltrey on the cover of The Who Sell Out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrdaddy Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 11:49 AM, ptm1diver said: No that’ would be .... Rap Said Jerry Garcia in one infamous HFC thread. he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrdaddy Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 8:20 PM, Menehune said: My close second is the first Montrose album, coincidentally featuring the Red Rocker on vocals, and produced by Ted Templeman to give it, like the first Van Halen album, that fiercely live, in-your-face sound Took the words right out of my mouth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenmindbeginner Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Metallica didn’t invent shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie G. Moseley Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 Whaddabout Klaatu? The so-called "it's-really-the-Beatles" conspiracy not withstanding, in the mid-'70s Klaatu proffered some very-well-crafted pop songs that delved into subjects beyond teen romance/angst (like the Beatles had done). And there were unique arrangements and instrumentation as well. Some of the stuff on their sophomore album smacked of Gilbert & Sullivan with rock instruments, for Chrissakes. And FWMOW their music still holds up. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudshark Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 How about a song that established a genre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana_V Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, Willie G. Moseley said: Whaddabout Klaatu? The so-called "it's-really-the-Beatles" conspiracy not withstanding, in the mid-'70s Klaatu proffered some very-well-crafted pop songs that delved into subjects beyond teen romance/angst (like the Beatles had done). And there were unique arrangements and instrumentation as well. Some of the stuff on their sophomore album smacked of Gilbert & Sullivan with rock instruments, for Chrissakes. And FWMOW their music still holds up. YMMV Yes! Klaatu! The first album is stylistically all over the place, but somehow it fits together. And yes, the subject matter went way beyond typical relationship or party songs: telepathy with aliens, the Beach Pneumatic Transit (I love "Sub Rosa Subway"), and a song told from the perspective of a neutral subatomic particle. Plus a message in Morse code. The second album, Hope, is a masterpiece (IMHO) and my favorite Klaatu album. They eventually dropped the mysterious "no names on the packaging" bit, but, like you said, it was still well-crafted pop songs. Also: I never really believed it was actually the Beatles, but it was fun to, ahem, hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBP Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Thelonious Monk was mentioned, but he was at the forefront of bebop's creation, even though it took some time for him to get recognized for it. And no matter what he played, he had has unique sound and approach. Somewhat related, there's Bill Frisell. It's not so much that he has his own genre, but rather that he can delve in any genre or mix a few, and add his own sound and harmonic style. Much of that can be said about Julian Lage as well. For someone recent, there's pianist Amaro Freitas. It's jazz but maybe with a math rock element? Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmiV_F3q_mg&t=609s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudshark Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 John Zorn's eclectic mix of rock, classical, jazz, and just about anything else he can conjure up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli'd Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 For me it's a much about a band sounding like nothing that has come before it as it is nothing sounding like it since. That gives way to a sound that is instantly recognizable when it's heard. In that vein, I agree that Zappa leads the charge here, there literally was nothing like Zappa Music before it or since. A modern band that falls into that category for me is White Denim out of Austin. If you ever get a chance to see them play it's worth the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie G. Moseley Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 ^^^Considering proto-Zappa aggregations, Spike Jones don't count? Admittedly, he was in it for laughs, not cynicism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0054 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 The Fall, always the same and never the same, attributed to John Peel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draelyc Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 4:33 PM, Willie G. Moseley said: Rush: "Hard progressive"? Steely Dan: "Intellectual rock'"? Tears For Fears might also fit into this category but they could be perceived as too, er, emotional... Mother's Finest: "Power funk" (I've seen this used, as well as "funk rock") Founded in 1972. To what extent have the RHCPs acknowledged any influence? Johnny A.: Darned if I know what his stuff should be called...(was listening to One November Night earlier today, which inspired this post) YMMV Others? King's X: Soul-groove-funk-Beatles-metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draelyc Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 8:56 AM, JGale said: Came here for Thomas Dolby. Was not disappointed. Paul Simon with Graceland? I second those two emotions. Although to be fair, Simon (I'm a HUGE fan, btw) tapped into Township music, moreso that creating a whole new genre from scratch, but I think a fair case can be made that in fusing Township with his established brand of folk & folk rock, he did hit on something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie G. Moseley Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 Whaddabout Traffic, 50 years ago? Interesting original trio lineup, and I hadn't really heard music like that. Abetted by Dave Mason on the second album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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