Teh Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hi All,Signed up up for the HFC the other day and have spent the time since reading through the threads to get a feel for the place and do a little research on a question that came up last week. I'm hoping you guys can help me out...First, a brief bio: I'm your typical guy in his mid-forties who played a lot in 70's and early 80's, then got busy with life and hung the guitar up for the next fifteen years. Got back into playing about five years ago, but have been focusing my efforts primarily on acoustic work. Own a bunch of acoustics, and your standard Les Paul, Strat, and a Washburn jazz box. I play lead in an acoustic trio and am also building up a set list to try my hand at the occassional solo "Weekend Warrior" bar type stuff.Back in January, I registered on WorkshopLive.com in the hopes of picking up some tips to improve my Blues and Rock chops. At the same time, they had a contest going that I also signed up for. Well, I got an email last week telling me that I won the Grand Prize -- A custom built Hamer!!!! Knowing Hamer only from the standard Rick Neilson / Andy Summers association, and the fact that Dave's Guitar and bunch of other shops picked them up after the Gibson fiasco and were raving about them, I started digging into the research to find out more.Which brings me here... So here's the question --If you had the chance to design the ultimate Hamer, what would you do? I'm not a shredder, so I'm thinking the Standard and Vector are out of the question. I'm looking for something that's going to be pretty versatile -- Nice clean jazz tones, but able to handle it when I turn up the gain. Options are wide open -- Model, pickups and electronics, woods, whatever. I love the look of the Lyle Workman custom in the Design Gallery, but I'm thinking only one F hole instead of two...Any help and guidance you guys can give would be greatly appreciated!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killertone Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hey and welcome to the forum.I think what you are after is an Artist. Very versatile guitar there. Jazz, blues, and rock are no prob with that guitar. Very sweet guitars indeed. There are many appointments you can get on an Artist so depending on your prize limit you could get a killer one made for you. Nice prize by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsmith Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hey! Congratulations!Thats a beautiful thing! You'll get lots of great advice here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamStd Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 That is easy, you should custom order a set neck Chapparal in dayglo dragonskin finish, with a single humbucker, short scale, floyd rose and "I"ll offer you $350" inlayed on the neck, the perfect Jazz box........ Just kidding Congratulations on winning the contest. I am sure you will get lots of advice on Monaco here as there are some very nice custom orders that have been done and some very happy owners.Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Congratuations and welcome to the HFC. Artist Ultimate with custom options. A bound f-hole looks very nice. But also a Newport custom or custom Monaco (or Monaco III) might fit you well. Do you have a preference with regards to scale length? Gabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atquinn Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Sounds like an Artist Custom would be a good fit for you. I'm not sure what pickups you would want to put in it though; The 59 might be o.k. in the neck for jazz, but the JB in the bridge...not so much. Maybe a 59'-59' combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest galejt Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Simple is better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidE Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Is there some dollar limit on what you can get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwayne Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I 'll also suggest either an Artist Custom or Ultimate. My Artist Custom has become my favorite guitar, which is quite a feat considering how attached I am to the former # 1.I wonder how an Artist would sound with the thickness of a Newport body. Hmmm.Hamer WILL do it - I've already asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Congrats and welcome!Don't rule out the Vector and the Standard, just because you don't consider yourself "a shredder."These are designs that are almost 50 years old; played by thousands of artists (and even more non-artists) who don't or can't shred any more than you can."I'm not a 'Pointy Guitar Guy'" is one of those phrases that often falls into the "Famous Last Words" category. Play one and you might find out that you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcnorth Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Make it a bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhitcomb3 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Congratulations! I signed up for that promotion as well and had some fun daydreams of what I'd order if I'd won it.Since you play some jazz you might consider the Improv. It is a very small jazz box and Hamer's top of the line and there is something like a two year wait for one to be built, but it is an heirloom quality instrument, and reviewers have raved about its sound and flexibility.Go visit the Willcutt site for a nice overview of Hamer's guitars to give yourself some ideas.Have fun!-Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnieZ Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Congratulations! and Welcome!Lyle Workman's guitar does look like a nice piece don't it? I think I would shoot for a Monaco lll with an Ultimate maple top either ultimate or multistripe binding f holes included and Lollar P90's or may antiquities. That would cover the greatest tone and bling variety IMO.ArneiZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherfreak2 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I would go more for a Newport pro, maybe put Duncan Custom/Custom Custom pickup combo. Then you have the best of everything! The Feel and the versatility all in the best guitar you could ever ask for. or get an improv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyScarp Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 You might want to consider a Custom Newport w/the acoustic bridge system they put in the DuoTone Custom. It would be very versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Don't rule out the Vector and the Standard, just because you don't consider yourself "a shredder." These are designs that are almost 50 years old; played by thousands of artists (and even more non-artists) who don't or can't shred any more than you can. "I'm not a 'Pointy Guitar Guy'" is one of those phrases that often falls into the "Famous Last Words" category. Play one and you might find out that you are. I have to agree with Kizanski on this. I recently bought my first pointy guitar and it is much more comfortable to play and plays much lighter than would've imagined. Despite this fact, 'd still go for an customized Artist, Newport or Monaco (III), maybe with a Korina body and an ulimate flame or quilt top. Bound f-hole(s). Gabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_C Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Spend some time looking at the Hamer Catalog and looking at Willcutt's for the eye candy and ideas. I would sugest as improv width double bound Monaco III with a maple top and matching carved back bound f holes five ply binding. basically a combination of the Improv, the Matt Smith Newport and the Lyle Workman Monaco. That's my suggestion. Congratulations on winning a great guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belikerick Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Congratulations and welcome! Let's see, I believe that the suggestions so far have covered EVERY HAMER OFFERED, so much for narrowing it down... The problem is in the phrase "If you had the chance to design the ultimate Hamer, what would you do?". Guys see that and start replying immediately without seeing the rest of your requirements for the guitar. If, as you say, you're looking for versatility and jazzability I'd agree with those that recommend an Artist. It is amazingly versatile and CAN go from Jazzalicious to big and crunchy. If you are able to, I would go into a shop that carries Hamers and test drive a variety of Artists to see if you like mahogany or korina, hums or P-90's. The Artist Ultimate is a beautiful guitar. Personally I can't imagine it could sound any better than my Korina Artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCR Greg Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Wow, that's starting at the top!!!!Versatility in a Hamer? Duotone or Artist for a smaller body, Monaco III for a larger one.My desert Island Hamer is a Duotone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darc Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Curiosity is killing me. There were no parameters as to what you could/could not request for a guitar? No price cap? No stipulations about "stock" models? I mean first off, there are a lot of guitars that Hamer just won't build. I doubt they'd offer to build *anything* as a prize for a contest, it would just hang them out too far. Like giving away a blank check. (If they've done so, geez, get a 5-neck Improv/Virtuoso/Maestro/Impact/B12!) BTW - Congrats! (Edited to make my recommended custom order even more ludicrous LOL.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, I'm leaning toward the Monaco or Artist, but definitely need to play them first. As for limitations or guidelines, I'm still waiting to talk with someone at Hamer to figure out what the limitations are. I should be getting a call sometime this week and will know more then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Congrats!!! That is a great prize! Get an Artist or Monaco III with a flame or birdseye top, but its gotta be blue. and Crown inlays starting at the 1st fret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce919 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Order a Watson & then sell it to me for 2k & be 2k richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pesocaster Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 here you go ..... Monaco Super Pro (this one is VERY custom...) NOT for sale... just to give you an idea of what can be done..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbilly Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 If you want versatility, get a Peso-pro like above (monaco superpro, HSH). Freakin' amazing guitar, I've never played anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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