Dave Scepter Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Apologies if this is a repeat question but has anybody use these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I can see the value in a well-made potentiometer, but how well can one make an output jack? It either makes the connection or it doesn't, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scepter Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, kizanski said: It either makes the connection or it doesn't, right? I guess that was my question as well, but I am also wondering If more contact area actually makes a difference or is the design more for reliability... or both?.. gimmick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave Scepter said: I guess that was my question as well, but I am also wondering If more contact area actually makes a difference or is the design more for reliability... or both?.. gimmick? I can see the value in "reliability," for sure. There is a point of diminishing returns, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scepter Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 Phuk it... Hold my beer, I'm going in!.. it's only $6... I'll just skip Starbucks today 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dave Scepter said: Phuk it... Hold my beer, I'm going in!.. it's only $6... I'll just skip Starbucks today 🤣 Oh, I was thinking the output jack would be $24.99 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Plating can be better on some jacks. Since the electrons flow on the surface that could have an effect. How well the jack grips the plug is another design consideration. However... most of those classic recordings with the perfect guitar tones were made using whatever came from the guitar factories with cables that were just regular guitar cables made long before they became boutique items. Does anyone "upgrade" their 1963 Stratocaster with all original parts? Do they brag about the sound of it? Is your 1968 ES-335 the greatest guitar ever made except for that crappy tone-sucking jack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGale Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Nice jacks. I have a couple in my speaker cabs, cuz the cable is heavy and these hold it tight, no sag at the join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I'm in the more and tighter contact is better! When you poke your willy in do you want a loose barely touching connection or one with a firm grip on things?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scepter Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, JGale said: Nice jacks. I have a couple in my speaker cabs, cuz the cable is heavy and these hold it tight, no sag at the join. Perfect!.. now how about those pots?.. any 1st hand experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Prof Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Interestingly, I've noticed lately that the input jack on my Centaura is a bit wonky. As in, it cuts in and out, making a hell of racket. It might simply need a good cleaning and perhaps, a reflow of the solder joints. Still, it's ironic that the pots have held up to 31 years of abuse while the jack appears to be failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I’ve used the pots, they are pots and do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Those replacement parts like pots and jacks may have been primarily intended for people looking to upgrade import guitars. When Seymour Duncan did guitar clinics to show what a difference changing pickups could make he would do a before and after demonstration of a mid priced guitar. More than once it has been suggested that changing the pots in a Chinese guitar will make a difference. It should be expected that American made guitars do not need such an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Haynie said: However... most of those classic recordings with the perfect guitar tones were made using whatever came from the guitar factories with cables that were just regular guitar cables made long before they became boutique items. Does anyone "upgrade" their 1963 Stratocaster with all original parts? Do they brag about the sound of it? Is your 1968 ES-335 the greatest guitar ever made except for that crappy tone-sucking jack? Absolutely. I often wonder how Jimi, Clapton, West, etc., were able to record anything worth a damn without today's technology. No Plek, no Sperzel tuning machines, no silly stupid Buzz Feiton snake oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, kizanski said: Absolutely. I often wonder how Jimi, Clapton, West, etc., were able to record anything worth a damn without today's technology. No Plek, no Sperzel tuning machines, no silly stupid Buzz Feiton snake oil. It was all "True Bypass"... Bypass all the hype and bullshit and just play the damned things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scepter Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Haynie said: It should be expected that American made guitars do not need such an upgrade. Unless it's broke! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Prof Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I like the design. Just ordered a couple of the jacks for a tad over $8 total--one for the aforementioned Centaura and another for a Tele build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scepter Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Biz Prof said: I like the design. Just ordered a couple of the jacks for a tad over $8 total--one for the aforementioned Centaura and another for a Tele build. $6.57 shipped @ Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrdaddy Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Steve Haynie said: Plating can be better on some jacks. Since the electrons flow on the surface that could have an effect. Exactly true. The quality of the nickel plating can have a distinct effect. 2 hours ago, Steve Haynie said: Those replacement parts like pots and jacks may have been primarily intended for people looking to upgrade import guitars. When Seymour Duncan did guitar clinics to show what a difference changing pickups could make he would do a before and after demonstration of a mid priced guitar. More than once it has been suggested that changing the pots in a Chinese guitar will make a difference. It should be expected that American made guitars do not need such an upgrade. The main reason this holds true is also the reason so many Chinese pickups sound like crap. It is because of the quality of the wiring used in both pickups and potentiometers. Quality made pots and pickups will use copper wire; the Chinese mostly use a cheap copper alloy wire in both pots and pickups that is very apparent when you look at it. The copper alloy will have a pinkish hue to it. Copper alloy wiring has a terrible effect on audio quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGale Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Dave Scepter said: Perfect!.. now how about those pots?.. any 1st hand experience? Not plural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshoowah Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, JGale said: Not plural. Was yours grown in soil from Maui, planted and harvested in sync with phases of the moon, and tended to by a 75 year old hippie who has lovingly manicured one at a time in the same planter since 1964? I need to give it the... uh... ear test! Ya know: when you sit down in the bean bag, turn on the lava lamp and crank up your favorite vinyl in the basement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcald Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 hours ago, kizanski said: Oh, I was thinking the output jack would be $24.99 or something. And a slew of YouTuber videos about how they can hear the difference in the tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcald Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, joshoowah said: Was yours grown in soil from Maui, planted and harvested in sync with phases of the moon, and tended to by a 75 year old hippie who has lovingly manicured one at a time in the same planter since 1964? I need to give it the... uh... ear test! Ya know: when you sit down in the bean bag, turn on the lava lamp and crank up your favorite vinyl in the basement... Get them now at artisanjack.com! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialk Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, scottcald said: And a slew of YouTuber videos about how they can hear the difference in the tone. I wondered where the harmony central idjits went to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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