pirateflynn Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Thinking of picking up either a Newport or Monaco. Looking for excellent condition, no cigarette smoke or cats (weed/dogs okay!). Shaking the bushes. Thanks! - Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 No preference of scale length? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateflynn Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 Not so much. I get along with both scale lengths. I’m more interested in semi/hollow and Bigsby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 I never understood the guys who "can only play" one scale length and not another. You're talking about millimeters of difference here - like less than 20 between the major scale lengths out there. That's like a thumbnail spread out over the entire neck, tops. I'm sure people can hear the difference between batteries too though, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentYGB Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, cmatthes said: I never understood the guys who "can only play" one scale length and not another. You're talking about millimeters of difference here - like less than 20 between the major scale lengths out there. That's like a thumbnail spread out over the entire neck, tops. I'm sure people can hear the difference between batteries too though, so... Long scale vs short scale: your woman knows the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, cmatthes said: I never understood the guys who "can only play" one scale length and not another. You're talking about millimeters of difference here - like less than 20 between the major scale lengths out there. That's like a thumbnail spread out over the entire neck, tops. I'm sure people can hear the difference between batteries too though, so... If there wasn’t any difference in scale length, wouldn’t there just be one? I think it has a lot to do with string tension for most average players. They only play one size of string, and a longer scale feels stiffer. 25.5 is more focused sounding, 24.75 sounds deeper and beefier. 25” scale is just wrong ! 😂 batteries is a whole other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topekatj Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 It’s a Monaco buffet currently at Guitar Center — there are three overpriced but nice looking Mlll’s, and two solidbodies (a TV yellow and a Red Elite) at around $1500. https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Hamer/?typeAheadRedirect=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
django49 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 hours ago, cmatthes said: I never understood the guys who "can only play" one scale length and not another. You're talking about millimeters of difference here - like less than 20 between the major scale lengths out there. That's like a thumbnail spread out over the entire neck, tops. I'm sure people can hear the difference between batteries too though, so... AAs sound SO much better than AAAs. In my opinion, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 hours ago, django49 said: AAs sound SO much better than AAAs. In my opinion, of course. Yeah, but a pair of D’s have the best feel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 13 hours ago, cmatthes said: I never understood the guys who "can only play" one scale length and not another. You're talking about millimeters of difference here... I thought it was a fair question. Some people have a preference, and some others even think the Newport and the Monaco are basically the same guitar. Personally, I prefer the longer scale. I like that extra 3/4" with my meat hook hands, but I have several "Gibson" scales too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshoowah Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 I adore my Monaco Superpro. The long scale in an otherwise very LP/ES recipe is a revelation. So much different having that extra space between the pups, and it makes me think differently than I would on my Artist, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateflynn Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 hours ago, kizanski said: I thought it was a fair question. Some people have a preference, and some others even think the Newport and the Monaco are basically the same guitar. Personally, I prefer the longer scale. I like that extra 3/4" with my meat hook hands, but I have several "Gibson" scales too. I agree and thanks. I’d probably prefer a Newport but the Monaco I once had was a great sounding guitar. Let’s see what pops up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, pirateflynn said: I agree and thanks. I’d probably prefer a Newport but the Monaco I once had was a great sounding guitar. Let’s see what pops up! You kind of broke the mold on your custom ordered Newport though! That was/is a sweet guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateflynn Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, cmatthes said: You kind of broke the mold on your custom ordered Newport though! That was/is a sweet guitar. That was an outstanding build! And ElDuave was great at managing the whole deal (including handling my excitement:)) I think a spruce top standard model will do me fine right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0054 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 16 hours ago, topekatj said: It’s a Monaco buffet currently at Guitar Center — there are three overpriced but nice looking Mlll’s, and two solidbodies (a TV yellow and a Red Elite) at around $1500. https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Hamer/?typeAheadRedirect=true TV model been there a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli'd Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 17 hours ago, bubs_42 said: 25” scale is just wrong ! 😂 I agreed with everything you said except this. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubs_42 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, soli'd said: I agreed with everything you said except this. 😉 I grew up at a time when PRS was just breaking out. I’ve owned them, played them and think they make amazing guitars. But side by side to another brand the familiarity of 25.5 and 24.75 beats out the 25 scale. I’m like, “It’s just missing something”. That something for me is the scale length. That’s one of the reasons Knaggs struck out on his own. JM ain’t playing 25” either, Paul bent the rules for JM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
django49 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, bubs_42 said: I grew up at a time when PRS was just breaking out. I’ve owned them, played them and think they make amazing guitars. But side by side to another brand the familiarity of 25.5 and 24.75 beats out the 25 scale. I’m like, “It’s just missing something”. That something for me is the scale length. That’s one of the reasons Knaggs struck out on his own. JM ain’t playing 25” either, Paul bent the rules for JM. Something for everyone, I suppose......I know that I have played PRS guitars with at least 5 different scale lengths. I have not played the Strat style (25.5") which would be a 6th and then there is also a longer scale baritone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/msg/d/brooklyn-2002-hamer-usa-newport-korina/7312327465.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateflynn Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 That one looks great Joe G! Anybody live in Brooklyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhuber Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 23 hours ago, cmatthes said: I never understood the guys who "can only play" one scale length and not another. You're talking about millimeters of difference here - like less than 20 between the major scale lengths out there. That's like a thumbnail spread out over the entire neck, tops. I'm sure people can hear the difference between batteries too though, so... I'm that guy. And don't get me started on string spacing and neck radius😁. Good luck with the search for a new guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrdaddy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, bubs_42 said: 24.75 beats out the 25 scale. OK Shawn, @bubs_42, you must be that battery guy Chris was talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrdaddy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 21 hours ago, bubs_42 said: 24.75 sounds deeper and beefier You should try the 24.594! Balls deeper and Angus Beefier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
django49 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 16 hours ago, Travis said: Yeah, but a pair of D’s have the best feel.... Not to mention the full bodied tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The only scale length on any guitar model that I can remember really didn't agree with me was the Hamer Monaco SuperPro. That being said, I'll sacrifice playability for cool any day. My first run PRS Santana wins cool in any room. I think it's really a great guitar for a guy with hands like a woman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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