Will1965 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Hi, I want to trade my 1979 Sunburst for a nice Monaco Elite. Cheers Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Franco Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Will1965 said: Hi, I want to trade my 1979 Sunburst for a nice Monaco Elite. Cheers Will Pics? I'm interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM OF HAMER Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, kizanski said: Mistake. BIG mistake......................1979 Sunburst VS Hamer Monaco Elite.................Nope! no contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polara Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Eh. Different strokes. I didn’t care for my ‘79 Sunburst. I’d bought it because of the hype but it did nothing for me. We all have different needs in guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamerhead Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I agree, Rick. I love my old Special but an Elite would see more playing time. Something about the mid-'90s forward always felt more 'right' to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebradfordrich Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I’d be interested in buy that outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, ebradfordrich said: I’d be interested in buy that outright. Now you're talkin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Wishing I still had my Elite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Eli said: Wishing I still had my Elite! ...or money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, kizanski said: ...or money. ...or some available credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candledinner Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Could you post some pictures? ... and if a cash sale, what sort of asking price.. Thanks 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebradfordrich Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 41 minutes ago, candledinner said: Could you post some pictures? ... and if a cash sale, what sort of asking price.. Thanks 😁 +1. This inquiring mind wants to know! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disturber Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 14 hours ago, polara said: Eh. Different strokes. I didn’t care for my ‘79 Sunburst. I’d bought it because of the hype but it did nothing for me. We all have different needs in guitars. Yupp, true. I need both. My old Sunbursts are awesome. But I also need the sound of later Hamer's, which is a bit tighter and feels more modern. Love my Monaco Superpro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menehune Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 9:42 AM, ARM OF HAMER said: BIG mistake......................1979 Sunburst VS Hamer Monaco Elite.................Nope! no contest. Pfft. Haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Menehune said: Pfft. Haters. Guilty. I hate the Monaco Elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrdaddy Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 1:49 PM, hamerhead said: Something about the mid-'90s forward always felt more 'right' to me. I agree. While I love old Sunbursts and Standards, I believe Hamer's build quality stepped up a notch or two in that era. I've always believed that NH production was the best. Those guitars were pretty much flawless... that is of course the ones that didn't wind up in a dumpster haul to Belmawr, NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugby1970 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 7:53 AM, kizanski said: Mistake. Lol. Tell how you really feel, Kiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 hours ago, kizanski said: Guilty. I hate the Monaco Elite. What do you hate about it? Seems like it’s got a proven recipe. And people who bitch about the shelf at the neck joint would probably turn their noses up at a real ‘59 Les Paul Junior as well. Fuck those choads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
django49 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Different strokes and all that. I have a Monaco Elite Goldtop (non-original P90s). I think it to be a better guitar than the original 1956 I had for nearly 2 decades. (That is my story and I am sticking to it!) Also have the CO SuperPro (also a goldtop and non -Duncan pickups). Probably my favorite Hamer all time. Somehow the ledge thing never bothered me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynic Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 The production ME doesn't bring a single thing to the table that isn't done better in other designs....and it's fugly. That top carve is all-over bad, especially around the 3-way but even the horn looks uncomfortably pinched. The shelf, while probably not as "in-the-way" as some want to claim, still adds another layer of ugly. I mean...wtf is that? It would look perfectly at home on a Jon Kammammererer. It also epitomizes how formulaic and boring Hamer could be. How many models can have the identical pickup, bridge, knob placement? I wonder which groundbreaker thought "Oh, I know, we can move the switch!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizanski Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Travis said: What do you hate about it? Seems like it’s got a proven recipe. And people who bitch about the shelf at the neck joint would probably turn their noses up at a real ‘59 Les Paul Junior as well. Fuck those choads. Well, no. The '59 is a double cut (like the '79 Sunburst). You’re thinking of the single cut Juniors, which, while alao having a "shelf," were also more aesthetically proportional than the Elite. The single cut Junior is the same shape and scale as its big brother Les Paul, while the Elite looks like someone said, "Let's make a smaller Monaco.... I don't know, just shrink everything." And yes, even the full sized Monacos have a shelf, but it appears much smaller, again, proportionally. Many people complain about the shelf on the Elite because they claim it "gets in the way," but I doubt anyone who ever said that ever played one. It just looks like it would get in the way, but that hasn't been my experience any more than the extended heel on the PRS guitars from the '90s. The Elites are fine playing guitars, just like every other Hamer from that time. I just don't like them because they're funny looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, kizanski said: Well, no. The '59 is a double cut (like the '79 Sunburst). You’re thinking of the single cut Juniors, which, while alao having a "shelf," were also more aesthetically proportional than the Elite. The single cut Junior is the same shape and scale as its big brother Les Paul, while the Elite looks like someone said, "Let's make a smaller Monaco.... I don't know, just shrink everything." And yes, even the full sized Monacos have a shelf, but it appears much smaller, again, proportionally. Many people complain about the shelf on the Elite because they claim it "gets in the way," but I doubt anyone who ever said that ever played one. It just looks like it would get in the way, but that hasn't been my experience any more than the extended heel on the PRS guitars from the '90s. The Elites are fine playing guitars, just like every other Hamer from that time. I just don't like them because they're funny looking. Dammit, I meant ‘57 Les Paul Junior. Damn my day drinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 3:21 AM, Will1965 said: Hi, I want to trade my 1979 Sunburst for a nice Monaco Elite. Cheers Will Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shark Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I have an absolutely killer Elite. Ernie S. sold me a killer '79 Sunburst. I've never thought of the two being in any way comparable. Might just be that my '79 is exemplary. But I kind of side with Kiz. There's just something that keeps my Elite in the case. Really can't tell you anything specific. It's just never my go to guitar. Got any pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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