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There is a 91 Hamer Max For sale on Reverb. Not associated. 

https://reverb.com/item/40948379-rare-usa-hamer-chaparral-max-4-string-bass-quilted-maple-with-original-hardshell-case

I have a question.

Does the description match the pictures below? This was the original description. 

"in excellent, near-mint cosmetic and perfect working condition.
From a collector, stored, detuned in its case, this ultra-rare Hamer is super clean, and shows only light playwear upon close inspection."

https://help.reverb.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013525833-Gear-Conditions-and-What-They-Mean

Please let me know.

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Whoa.... I could be wrong, but that might be a case of surface checking.  I've heard about guitars shipped in weather below freezing and opened up before it's had a chance to warm up at room temperature. Should be left in the box for a day or two before opening. Don't know how true this is, but heard about a guy who bought a new guitar shipped in the winter, quickly opened the box and case, and watched it instantly turn into a relic as the indoor temperature warmed it up. I've got a 48 year old guitar and the only cracks in the finish are the ones I put on it !! 

BTW, under Gear Conditions,  I would have probably listed it under Very Good.  If you're really goin' for it, maybe bring it to his attention with an offer. You never know, he might go for it.    

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Just finish checking, not really a big deal.   The rest of it looks to be solid - not “Mint” by any stretch, but it’s a clean example.   
 

I’d let my quilt bodied custom-ordered Chap Bass go for half that!

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Yes, it looks to me like a case of surface finish cracks from cold weather.  This bass is currently in California, but obviously it was shipped from a colder place at some point.  (This is not exactly stunning detective work... because at the very least, we all know where this bass was made!)

I had a Hamer import shipped to me that looked like this:

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I ended up getting a $160 USD partial refund on a total sale price of $315 USD!  What a deal!!  It plays great, though. 

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2 minutes ago, HamerCustomEr said:

Yes, it looks to me like a case of surface finish cracks from cold weather.  This bass is currently in California, but obviously it was shipped from a colder place at some point.  (This is not exactly stunning detective work... because at the very least, we all know where this bass was made!)

I had a Hamer import shipped to me that looked like this:

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I ended up getting a $160 USD partial refund on a total sale price of $315 USD!  What a deal!!  It plays great, though. 

There is a huge difference between a $315 and $2999 instrument dont you think?

Not saying that is not a fine instrument just pointing out the difference in price.

I guess if the seller gave a $1500 refund it would be worth it!?!

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4 minutes ago, Ham Rex said:

There is a huge difference between a $315 and $2999 instrument dont you think?

Not saying that is not a fine instrument just pointing out the difference in price.

I guess if the seller gave a $1500 refund it would be worth it!?!

Yes, of course there is a huge difference.  The point is the huge percentage of refund, and so in my opinion, a $1500 refund would make the deal much more attractive.

11 minutes ago, cmatthes said:

Just finish checking, not really a big deal.   The rest of it looks to be solid - not “Mint” by any stretch, but it’s a clean example.   
 

I’d let my quilt bodied custom-ordered Chap Bass go for half that!

Why not just buy cmatthes' bass instead?  It already has the 50% discount!

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That is not mint condition. 

I have a quilt maple Chaparral Bass with a rosewood fretboard and dots.  It sounds good and feels good when it gets played.  So that Chaparral Max should be a wonderful instrument to play, but as others have said about the price, it is ambitious. 

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8 hours ago, HamerCustomEr said:

Yes, of course there is a huge difference.  The point is the huge percentage of refund, and so in my opinion, a $1500 refund would make the deal much more attractive.

Why not just buy cmatthes' bass instead?  It already has the 50% discount!

I'm working on it. I've messaged him directly and it sounds awesome! Thanks.

I'm just trying to get people's opinion about how this bass was described and what it actually is.

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I personally do not like checked instruments with few exceptions and think a good seller would have described it as such. I guess I should have been more clear in my original post. 

So, should the seller have "Checked Finish"in the description instead of what was described?

He said everyone should expect Checked Finish in all vintage instruments.

"in excellent, near-mint cosmetic and perfect working condition.
From a collector, stored, detuned in its case, this ultra-rare Hamer is super clean, and shows only light playwear upon close inspection."

I have a collection of Hamer Basses and Guitars from a 1979 4 digit crowned and bound dark burst standard to a 1998 natural standard and only one has some checking again not mentioned in the description.

Thanks.

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On 7/14/2021 at 10:50 PM, JustKid said:

I personally do not see it as a problem. But I wouldn't call it mint either. On the other hand he provided good pics to explain his understanding of "mint" . 

I took the pictures. It is not posted with these pictures.

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