The Queensryche saga -long read, but it's worth reading.

I could have read a morning's worth of news, but instead I got stuck on that soap opera of a band saga.

 
It seems none of these guys have seen Spinal Tap.

NEVER let Wives or Girlfriends (or Husbands or Lovers etc) get involved with management, A&R or anything to do with the bands musical or financial business.

 
Tate was on That Metal Show and Saturday and discussed this pretty freely (at least his side of it).

 
My takeaways:

1. Queensryche Cabaret = Kilroy Was Here

2. Tremendous restraint by Wilton and Rockenfield to not stomp the shit out of Tate.

 
Hmmm, who else here would let Geoff Tate spit on them, hit them in the face without some type of retaliation? Definately not a violent person but if someone I was in a band with tried that shit with me, they would be hurting...

 
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I knew it was a sign of things to come when Geoff said in an interview several years ago: "I'm not really a metal guy" /emoticons/default_blink.png

 
coolfeel said:
Hmmm, who else here would let Geoff Tate spit on them, hit them in the face without some type of retaliation? Definately not a violent person but if someone I was in a band with tried that shit with me, they would be hurting...
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Maybe some guys are more worried about making sure there is a show for the people who showed up.

 
Steve Haynie said:
coolfeel said:
Hmmm, who else here would let Geoff Tate spit on them, hit them in the face without some type of retaliation? Definately not a violent person but if someone I was in a band with tried that shit with me, they would be hurting...
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Maybe some guys are more worried about making sure there is a show for the people who showed up.
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Yeah, wait until after the show then let him have it !

 
I suppose timing is everything, however, what kind of show are you going to have when someone has just shamed/insulted/humiliated you?

Steve Haynie said:
coolfeel said:
Hmmm, who else here would let Geoff Tate spit on them, hit them in the face without some type of retaliation? Definately not a violent person but if someone I was in a band with tried that shit with me, they would be hurting...
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Maybe some guys are more worried about making sure there is a show for the people who showed up.
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RichRS6 said:
It seems none of these guys have seen Spinal Tap.

NEVER let Wives or Girlfriends (or Husbands or Lovers etc) get involved with management, A&R or anything to do with the bands musical or financial business.
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yeah... or read about the reasons why SuperTramp will never tour as a complete original band again. One member decided to marry their record person and make her the manager. ALWAYS a BAD MOVE.Heck Romance inside of bands in general can have disastrous effects. Look at Fleetwood Mac. Or the Ramones.

 
Mindcrime is still in my top 5 albums of all time /emoticons/default_tongue.png

Real shame when this happens to bands

 
I'm not sure I buy Tate's story on TMS. Some things don't add up, like the idea that he can't understand why they won't talk to him after he pulled a knife on them and spit at them. Or that there were no creative differences, but he complains (elsewhere) that the rest of the band wouldn't participate in writing.

If you saw them on the Rocklahoma broadcast, it was somewhat bizarre. Tate didn't look at another band member for the full 90 minutes. No eye contact whatsoever, no acknowledgement that there was anyone else on stage with him.

 
I like Tate as a performer. I can only imagine that as the band became more successful, maybe he felt responsible for that success. Probably should have split after Empire if he did not want to do the Metal thing. Guess he needed the band name, and they needed him... thus the long relationship.

 
I seen Queensryche open for KISS in around 1984-1985.

They come out, play the first couple of songs ... the crowd is getting into

it. Between song banter begins:

Tate: How ya do'in St Louis !!??

Crowd: BOOO! F#CK YOU!!!

Unfortunately for Tate, the band was playing in Louisville, Ky.

 
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