Ultimates: Going rate?

kizanski said:
Having given it more time rattling around in my brain, and considering what your c.2000s Hamer Standards are going for, $4000 isn't as crazy as it may sound.

Anyone disagree?  I'd like to hear the reasoning.
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Not crazy at all. Why WOULD you sell?

I regret not having joined on that first round. But I knew the body style/size does not fit me. The two Hamer Standards I once had, one korina, the other a 2005 (I think) chambered version were delightful. Just not for me. Playing in our (then) rehearsal space made that quite clear.

Still, if I DID have an Ultimate, I am pretty sure I would find a way to live with it. 😏

 
I sold my 2002 Standard Custom in natural with the chevron flame top and gold hardware for $4K and that was one of the nicest Hamers I've owned or played.  I thought that was a fair price for what it was.  Ultimate 0017 is much more to my liking than either that Hamer or 0109 (aka "Grandpa Rick").

I have a set of Schlabotnik's standing by for 0109, but haven't put them in because while it'll be better than the pickups in 0109 it still won't to match up with 0017.  No way imho.

 
0054 said:
Could not agree more with this statement.

At that price are you gonna get a better guitar? I think not.

I spoke with an HFC member who doubted the value, stating outside of the forum the guitars would not sell. I stated, and believe it true that each one that has sold has brougt a profit for the seller, that is value. Mike started his venture much later than a lot of other world class builders, his target market is different, the times they are a changing. Playing one is the big convincer though, and  they are worth the cost and time it takes to get one.
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The doubter should check out about a half dozen FB/social media sites where people ask regularly whether there are any available Shishkov Ultimates available.

 
bubs_42 said:
You forget that I sold mine my Ultimate, as well as a 4 digit.  I remember how many members reached out to purchase that 4 Digit and  scoffed at what I was asking for it. ten offering me half of my asking price. One member bought it, and he will make money off of it one day and I am satisfied with what I got at the time.
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I remember how I "met" Bubs.  I PM'd him a couple years before he was ready to sell his 4-digit.  Then, right before Christmas, he shot me a price and told me he wanted me to have it.  He even gave me "terms" and let me pay him over about a month or six weeks. 

I learned long ago that the "price" of a guitar is what I'll pay for it.    

 
The Shark said:
I remember how I "met" Bubs.  I PM'd him a couple years before he was ready to sell his 4-digit.  Then, right before Christmas, he shot me a price and told me he wanted me to have it.  He even gave me "terms" and let me pay him over about a month or six weeks. 

I learned long ago that the "price" of a guitar is what I'll pay for it.    
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You may have paid a premium for the guitars you have purchased form me, but at this point, they are all worth more than you paid. That is just icing on the cake. 

To anyone out there that just has a guitar they love, don't sell it, don't ever sell it. At any price it will never mean more to someone else than it does to you. The Ultimates, 4 Digits, and now just you plain old everyday Standards, the word is out and you cannot base prices on what they sell for on this forum. Sometimes though selling important pieces to someone you know will take care of them, enjoy them, and will respect them trumps the dollar amount you can get for them. 

 
bubs_42 said:
You may have paid a premium for the guitars you have purchased form me, but at this point, they are all worth more than you paid. That is just icing on the cake. 

To anyone out there that just has a guitar they love, don't sell it, don't ever sell it. At any price it will never mean more to someone else than it does to you. The Ultimates, 4 Digits, and now just you plain old everyday Standards, the word is out and you cannot base prices on what they sell for on this forum. Sometimes though selling important pieces to someone you know will take care of them, enjoy them, and will respect them trumps the dollar amount you can get for them. 
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I hear ya and could not agree more!  Many years ago, I sold my '77 Inca Silver MM Stingray to a guy in Italy.

I got over 10x what I paid for it new, and even with that, I deeply regret selling it.

I'm down to a '73 P-bass, The Standard Bass #0531, and the 12ver Standard Bass, and I won't make that mistake again.

 
$25k, and I *might* consider it. 

Seriously, if you ever see this for sale, something has seriously changed in my life...

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I sold mine for what I paid, to the penny. My main interest when I got it was to be part of the launch of what I figured would be an awesome guitar company. I figured that if I loved the guitar, great, but Mike needed to get off the ground and I wanted to be a contributor.

Like others, the Standard body shape will never be for me, but whatever... I knew there was no way I'd be underwater on number 21, and it was fun to own while it lasted.

 
I'm pretty sure this topic will get updated shortly.  

I would strongly suggest....strongly suggest those folks interested in a Shishkov Ultimate to tune into the Shishkov Guitars  Facebook Page later today. 

I saw a teaser shot.  Damn...

Hamerica

 
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