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Red Scuderia
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2006 Vintage Guitar Magazine Price guide page 129 top left.
1982-1984 3 on a side peghead $900
1984-1990 6 on a side peghead $750
Im a fool. Its not my guitar.
With all respect..ive been playing and trading guitars for a few years. Certainly not a pro, but also im not an amateur. If i listened to every know-it-all on forums as far as pricing, i might as well give it up.
My specialty is ESP. The ESP forum people mock every auction ive made, saying im crazy. Ya know what, ive sold just about every guitar for a lot more then they'd pay. My $1900.00 Hanneman that they said was only worth $900-$1100. My $1600 DV8-R SE which they would only pay $800 for. Im not one to let other people determine my destiny. Thats why my handle is Red Scuderia and not Red Corvette.
This isnt a debate. Respectfully, to you its not worth over $600..and thats great. This guitar isnt for you. There is a lead guitarist in an 80's hairband out there in this world of over 4 billion people that will think its worth over $600, over $800, over $1500..
1982-1984 3 on a side peghead $900
1984-1990 6 on a side peghead $750
Im a fool. Its not my guitar.
With all respect..ive been playing and trading guitars for a few years. Certainly not a pro, but also im not an amateur. If i listened to every know-it-all on forums as far as pricing, i might as well give it up.
My specialty is ESP. The ESP forum people mock every auction ive made, saying im crazy. Ya know what, ive sold just about every guitar for a lot more then they'd pay. My $1900.00 Hanneman that they said was only worth $900-$1100. My $1600 DV8-R SE which they would only pay $800 for. Im not one to let other people determine my destiny. Thats why my handle is Red Scuderia and not Red Corvette.
This isnt a debate. Respectfully, to you its not worth over $600..and thats great. This guitar isnt for you. There is a lead guitarist in an 80's hairband out there in this world of over 4 billion people that will think its worth over $600, over $800, over $1500..
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Red Scuderia
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Why are people so pessimistic when it comes to other people's things? Because its mine, its not worth but $350 (like thats reality). Im sure if you were selling it, youd be sitting here saying its worth a fortune because its so rare (and yours). I suppose the car you bought last year for $24,000 is still worth $24,000 in your mind and "Brand New", right?!
Im not pessimistic when i see people offering things that I feel are priced too high. Its none of my business and I move on. Why do you select few feel the need to degrade me ("Good Luck With That"). If I had a dollar for every forumite that told me, "good luck with that" id be a rich man.
Oh wait, I am a rich man!
If it makes you feel better and gets you thru the day, im glad I could be of some help to you. Im concerned as to what will get you thru tomorrow..
No one has said, "Wow. what an unusually rare piece you have there. I hope you have great luck selling it." I think Hamerhead mis-represented this forum.
I've gotten a lot of emails WorldWide from some decent people saying its a really nice instrument and they wish they had a few extra bucks to spend. Nice to see the decent side of humanity still exists, even in small quantities.
Im not pessimistic when i see people offering things that I feel are priced too high. Its none of my business and I move on. Why do you select few feel the need to degrade me ("Good Luck With That"). If I had a dollar for every forumite that told me, "good luck with that" id be a rich man.
Oh wait, I am a rich man!
If it makes you feel better and gets you thru the day, im glad I could be of some help to you. Im concerned as to what will get you thru tomorrow..
No one has said, "Wow. what an unusually rare piece you have there. I hope you have great luck selling it." I think Hamerhead mis-represented this forum.
I've gotten a lot of emails WorldWide from some decent people saying its a really nice instrument and they wish they had a few extra bucks to spend. Nice to see the decent side of humanity still exists, even in small quantities.
The final arbiter has to be the market.
The Union Jack Blitz on eBay has original case and hardware, a much rarer finish and has not had switches added. It has stalled at $580 and will probably end at about $750.
As I said above 3+3 Blitzes are one of the real bargain Hamers now, and are seriously under-rated. My opinion only, but the 3+3 headstock gives much better tuning stability (without a lock-nut) than the hockey stick style.
Andrew.
The Union Jack Blitz on eBay has original case and hardware, a much rarer finish and has not had switches added. It has stalled at $580 and will probably end at about $750.
As I said above 3+3 Blitzes are one of the real bargain Hamers now, and are seriously under-rated. My opinion only, but the 3+3 headstock gives much better tuning stability (without a lock-nut) than the hockey stick style.
Andrew.
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People here have told you what the guitar is worth. Take it for what it is. Keep it at whatever price you desire, it's your guiter. Just don't expect to sell it to anyone on this board. We are a family here and we give eachother deals.
$1200 fer a beat blitz aint gonna happen homeslice. I feel bad for whoever gets duped into buying it for that much.
-MattB
$1200 fer a beat blitz aint gonna happen homeslice. I feel bad for whoever gets duped into buying it for that much.
-MattB
Settle down there, Red.
No one's been rude to you here. You just raised our collective BS meter with your initial deceptive eBay "Ted Nugent Signature Guitar" listing and your hyperbole rich, factually challenged second listing. How about actually answering the questions about the electronics and fret wear, rather than tap dancing? The correct answers are:
1) the electronics are not original, (not, "I can't confirm that all of the switches are original") and
2) a full description of the condition of the frets (not, "Fretboard and frets are not an issue").
You lost more credibility by overstating the book value of the Blitz and the differential between the different headstock models. Check your math. Add in the fact that you're quoting prices for excellent condition, all originial guitars with OHSC, when yours has modified, poorly executed wiring, a likely replaced tremolo (does the Floyd say "Hamer" on the baseplate?) and no case, and you come across as less than honest. By the way, $69.00 for shipping a guitar with no case? What's the extra $50.00 for?
If you can bamboozle someone into paying what you're asking for that guitar, more power to ya. You have a bright future in the diet pill infomercial industry.
I'll tell you what we respect around here. People who are honest and straight-forward. We demonstrate that by respecting each other's intelligence and quickly dismissing those who employ dishonest tactics, whether on eBay or on this board. If you keep coming back for validation that your $1,200 asking price is valid, it's not going to happen. If you're one of those guys who just has to have the last word, or needs to posture as the smartest guy in the room, I'll look forward to your reply.
No one's been rude to you here. You just raised our collective BS meter with your initial deceptive eBay "Ted Nugent Signature Guitar" listing and your hyperbole rich, factually challenged second listing. How about actually answering the questions about the electronics and fret wear, rather than tap dancing? The correct answers are:
1) the electronics are not original, (not, "I can't confirm that all of the switches are original") and
2) a full description of the condition of the frets (not, "Fretboard and frets are not an issue").
You lost more credibility by overstating the book value of the Blitz and the differential between the different headstock models. Check your math. Add in the fact that you're quoting prices for excellent condition, all originial guitars with OHSC, when yours has modified, poorly executed wiring, a likely replaced tremolo (does the Floyd say "Hamer" on the baseplate?) and no case, and you come across as less than honest. By the way, $69.00 for shipping a guitar with no case? What's the extra $50.00 for?
If you can bamboozle someone into paying what you're asking for that guitar, more power to ya. You have a bright future in the diet pill infomercial industry.
I'll tell you what we respect around here. People who are honest and straight-forward. We demonstrate that by respecting each other's intelligence and quickly dismissing those who employ dishonest tactics, whether on eBay or on this board. If you keep coming back for validation that your $1,200 asking price is valid, it's not going to happen. If you're one of those guys who just has to have the last word, or needs to posture as the smartest guy in the room, I'll look forward to your reply.
Kilroy is all about...
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Considering Uncle Rick calls his pointing hamers EXPLORERS /emoticons/default_biggrin.png , not standards, (prose /emoticons/default_ph34r.png Nielsen's guitar descriptions in the back of his book)I believe Red can call his buddy's whored-out-plank a $1.2k /emoticons/default_biggrin.png Blitz....
/emoticons/default_wub.png kilroy continues to avoid his in-basket this fine monday morning.
/emoticons/default_wub.png kilroy continues to avoid his in-basket this fine monday morning.
Red Scuderia
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$69.00 flat rate shipping for that guitar is more then fair. Its a heavier then average guitar. The box and materials cost money. Have you any idea what it would cost to ship that guitar from my state, NJ, to Hawaii or West coast? I would, because ive done it dozens of times.
Like I said, you are all welcome to your opinions. The guitar isnt for you. It will go. And why feel bad if someone pays more then you would? People have paid more and less for things you own.
Something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. My feedback is my credibility. Other then the mook that bought my used Nokia cell phone and complained of surface scratches after viewing the SUPERSIZED pictures, check his feedback.. He did it to 4 other people.. My feedback is perfect, and will remain. I am 100% forthrite. I cant confirm they are original and im led to believe theyre not. Im not a Hamer professor and never claim to be. Guitar hasnt been refretted to my knowledge and the board is in great condition: hence, not an issue.
as for the first auction, like Hamerhead and I posted, i was mis informed on the history of the guitar and ended the auction within 45 mins of its start. Dont sit there and tell me thats not credible. I didnt know, i learned, i reacted.
As for the "butchered electronics" i have a 1979 BC Rich Mockingbird which will fetch somewhere near $3000.00US. They are incredibly hot in the market and they were basically made in a garage using scrap parts of amps and other guitars. The soldering looks like a kid in his basement did it and even has electrical tape! And thats ORIGINAL!
Like I said, you are all welcome to your opinions. The guitar isnt for you. It will go. And why feel bad if someone pays more then you would? People have paid more and less for things you own.
Something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. My feedback is my credibility. Other then the mook that bought my used Nokia cell phone and complained of surface scratches after viewing the SUPERSIZED pictures, check his feedback.. He did it to 4 other people.. My feedback is perfect, and will remain. I am 100% forthrite. I cant confirm they are original and im led to believe theyre not. Im not a Hamer professor and never claim to be. Guitar hasnt been refretted to my knowledge and the board is in great condition: hence, not an issue.
as for the first auction, like Hamerhead and I posted, i was mis informed on the history of the guitar and ended the auction within 45 mins of its start. Dont sit there and tell me thats not credible. I didnt know, i learned, i reacted.
As for the "butchered electronics" i have a 1979 BC Rich Mockingbird which will fetch somewhere near $3000.00US. They are incredibly hot in the market and they were basically made in a garage using scrap parts of amps and other guitars. The soldering looks like a kid in his basement did it and even has electrical tape! And thats ORIGINAL!
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Red Scuderia
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..And for what its worth, the Union Jack one looks to be a very nice example. I wouldnt pay $300 for a Union Jack guitar. I think its ugly. If i were in some Def Leppard tribute band, then id be all over it. But im not. So the $580 its at, to me, is over priced. Maybe I should start a post and bash that guy like youve all done to me. Wait, im new here so my opinions and views are worthless.
Kilroy is all about...
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yyy /emoticons/default_biggrin.png aaaaa..Red, you're opinions aren't worthless /emoticons/default_tongue.png . In fact, I can relate to being pushed /emoticons/default_biggrin.png around because i had a belief/story/attitude that was contrary /emoticons/default_wub.png to public opinion.
/emoticons/default_biggrin.png Nevertheless, you're 'puffing' the features and benefits of your buddy's guitar and that's all about sales /emoticons/default_biggrin.png , so latitude is given. However, that guitar is not worth your claim$ within this forum, which can have both very helpful information and back-biting commentary--(check your feelings at the gate and engage with an open-mind-that's what i do)
Once back in early '04, i disclosed i had a $6k '59 reissue les paul and got royally flamed, but i learned from the experience and have continued to play, buy/sell and traded some of rarest /emoticons/default_tongue.png of hamers with some righteous /emoticons/default_tongue.png dudes.
good luck.. /emoticons/default_tongue.png
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/emoticons/default_biggrin.png Nevertheless, you're 'puffing' the features and benefits of your buddy's guitar and that's all about sales /emoticons/default_biggrin.png , so latitude is given. However, that guitar is not worth your claim$ within this forum, which can have both very helpful information and back-biting commentary--(check your feelings at the gate and engage with an open-mind-that's what i do)
Once back in early '04, i disclosed i had a $6k '59 reissue les paul and got royally flamed, but i learned from the experience and have continued to play, buy/sell and traded some of rarest /emoticons/default_tongue.png of hamers with some righteous /emoticons/default_tongue.png dudes.
good luck.. /emoticons/default_tongue.png
kilroy posts.. /emoticons/default_ph34r.png
Red Scuderia
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Thanks Kilroy.. Its hard to keep an open mind. Dont get me wrong, i wouldnt pay $1200 for it either. I dont like it. But its not what I like..its the what someone in the world is willing to pay.
For the record, i didnt misquote any prices.. If you want me to take a picture of the 06 Vintage Magazine price guide, page 129 and post it, i will. Complain to them if you think the 6 on a side is worth more.
I happen to like 6 on a side headstocks myself.
For the record, i didnt misquote any prices.. If you want me to take a picture of the 06 Vintage Magazine price guide, page 129 and post it, i will. Complain to them if you think the 6 on a side is worth more.
I happen to like 6 on a side headstocks myself.