Why is this problem so common???

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fenderiarhs

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Why most of the Hamer chapparals i have seen have a broken headstock/neck area???? Is it because of the tilted back headstock? I have not seen so many californians with that problem even though i think californians also have the tilted back headstock........

 
Those damned thru the neck Floyd nut bolts have more than a little to do with things. Not sure why it would be more prevalent on Chaps than Calis.

 
More real estate on the Chap headstocks? More surface area = more opportunity to impact something and break!

 
Several SS1's that I've seen for sale on E Bay have had headstock repairs too.

The through neck Floyd nuts are one reason no doubt. I've also noticed the headstocks on short scale Chapps are pretty thin. I think they're a little thicker on bolt neck Chapps and Cali's. I think because earlier Chapps and SS1's and some of the other mid 80's models had such thin necks and headstocks, there just isn't a lot of wood there.

 
Those damned thru the neck Floyd nut bolts have more than a little to do with things. Not sure why it would be more prevalent on Chaps than Calis.
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yep, those thruneck bolts suck. I am thankful that most of my Hamers lack that Frankensteinian Achilles heel.

 
Mahogany necks and floyd bolts through the neck. Maple necks take it better. Thats just what I heard. I am no expert. Now if you want to know exactly how NOT to play slide guitar, I'm your man.

 
You see that ALOT with Floyd equipped Ibanez's too. They crack where the bolts go through the neck to hold the nut. Another reason I don't like Floyds.

 
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You see that ALOT with Floyd equipped Ibanez's too. They crack where the bolts go through the neck to hold the nut. Another reason I don't like Floyds.
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Hey guys,

Ibanez guitars are equipped with Edge tremolos, not original Floyd Rose tremolo bridges. /emoticons/default_huh.png I've owned a '93 black Ibanez RG-570 for about 12 years until I bought my '94 Diablo II. I did a gig and carried the guitar in a gig bag. My bass player's older brother thought it was his guitar and grabbed my gig bag by accident. I found out that someone swiped my guitar at the end of the show. My bass player eventually found out his older brother grabbed it by accident. I get the guitar back and found my Wizard II neck was cracked right where the locking nuts go through the guitar neck. That was a sad day for me and I wasn't looking to fight a 200+ lb. guy who just got out of jail for assaulting someone. I eventually took it to a local guitar repairman in Hayward, CA to repair the neck. That guitar didn't like humidity and tended to go out of tune on certain occasions. It was my favorite gigging guitar, but the damaged neck repair and the availability of the the Diablo II guitar made it easy to trade in the Ibanez RG-570 guitar for the purchase of my Diablo II guitar. I miss that guitar sometimes because it had a nice resonant basswood body that sounded quite good, but the cracked neck and body issues (basswood is very soft) made my decision to trade it in a necessity. My Diablo II guitar is a far better guitar to play onstage and in the studio. /emoticons/default_smile.png

Guitar George

Guitar George

 
You see that ALOT with Floyd equipped Ibanez's too.   They crack where the bolts go through the neck to hold the nut.   Another reason I don't like Floyds.
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Hey guys,

Ibanez guitars are equipped with Edge tremolos, not original Floyd Rose tremolo bridges. /emoticons/default_huh.png I've owned a '93 black Ibanez RG-570 for about 12 years until I bought my '94 Diablo II. I did a gig and carried the guitar in a gig bag. My bass player's older brother thought it was his guitar and grabbed my gig bag by accident. I found out that someone swiped my guitar at the end of the show. My bass player eventually found out his older brother grabbed it by accident. I get the guitar back and found my Wizard II neck was cracked right where the locking nuts go through the guitar neck. That was a sad day for me and I wasn't looking to fight a 200+ lb. guy who just got out of jail for assaulting someone. I eventually took it to a local guitar repairman in Hayward, CA to repair the neck. That guitar didn't like humidity and tended to go out of tune on certain occasions. It was my favorite gigging guitar, but the damaged neck repair and the availability of the the Diablo II guitar made it easy to trade in the Ibanez RG-570 guitar for the purchase of my Diablo II guitar. I miss that guitar sometimes because it had a nice resonant basswood body that sounded quite good, but the cracked neck and body issues (basswood is very soft) made my decision to trade it in a necessity. My Diablo II guitar is a far better guitar to play onstage and in the studio. /emoticons/default_smile.png

Guitar George

Guitar George
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Thanks for the correction. I know they're Edge Pro Trems. I owned a couple with them. They're basically the same thing.

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Why did they drill through the neck like that?
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according to a chat I once had with Gary Brawer@ Real Guitars, the general idea with Floyd nuts is that in order to avoid disasterous loss of tone, the nut had to be cinched down as tight as possible to the neck. Apparently it was thought that going behind the nut was the best way to get maximum tension on the nut. I've never had any problems with my Floyd nuts that screw down from the top even coming remotely loose - I think I check once a year and the screws are always tight.

Maybe they thought that the screws going into wood would strip out, like the way they originally did the bridge posts going directly into the wood? Who knows, IMHO the screws going in from the top is infinitely better...

 
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