The exceptions would be the aforementioned "Production" lines, like the Special, Blitz, original Vector, etc. Those started in 1980 as more of a budget-oriented Hamer, as opposed to the 4-digits (Standards, other custom guitars and basses) and Sunbursts. Those were out nearly a decade before Kaman took over. Well, not really a decade, more like seven years. But I think you may have a point. Comparitively, were those Vectors and Blitz models cheap compared to Gibsons?