you think that fender and gibson did not know what they were doing for over 20 years. fender made the telecaster, the stratocaster, the precision bass, the telecasterbass, the jazzmaster, the jaguar, the fender acoustics king, kingman , the starcaster, the unique montego and ltd jazzguitar, the fender V and VI bass. all those instruments leo fender and his team invented, and developed over a period of 25 years. i don t know any bolt on guitar which is not based on any of above mentioned guitars and basses. i don t want to mention all the gibson models, because gibsons made the best acoustics already in the begin of the last century. till the end of the 60s the gibson invented in acoustic and electric guitars anything which was to invent. of course there are also other companies which made important pieces. so what do you think who were the idols of the modern luthiers during the last 30 years.