musicman Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 There appears to be two sizes of saddles for the late seventies/early eighties sustain block Specials/Sunbursts - small and large.Where can I find replacements for either?Thanks
serial Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 One of our more talented HFCers produces them (or at least did) and they were available through BCR Greg.Another HFCer made some a little before that, but I don't know if he has any more of those. Both were very nice quality and were to the 1979+ spec. Dont' know about the availability of the earlier style, but I think that the others will work on the '77-78 bridges.
stonge Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 There were basically two widths of sustainblock saddles - .375 inch wide and .400 inch wide. The easier way to tell which ones you have is to look at the high E/low E string alignment over the bridge pickup (original bridge Dimarzio on either a Sunburst or a Special); generally speaking if the high E and low E strings pass right over the polepieces the spacing is .375 with .375 wide saddles and if the high E and low E are outboard the polepieces the spacing is likely .400 with .400 wide saddles (If you have .375 wide saddles on .400 spacing, it looks like gaps in a picket fence and .400 wide saddles on .375 spacing tend to splay outward at an angle, but mismatches will generally work). I measured a few saddles and spacings when I built some repro bridges a couple years back. Hamer also used different suppliers, and I've seen some that were .385-ish wide as well. There are also cast saddles (you can see the porosity if you look at the flat sides very carefully - the chrome plate is thin and telegraphs the surface below), and on the earlier ones the string ramp is milled (you can see the tool marks) rather than a cast radius on the later saddles (my reproduction saddles were milled with a .093 ball end mill - talk about a tedious job). Pretty much all functionally equivalent, but if you want the cosmetics right try for a match to partial sets.I bought some original Hamer cast saddles from an ex-Hamer dealer's stash pile - they are .375 wide and I sell them with original black oxide screws (height and intonation), aftermarket spring, and replacement stainless steel screws (because the originals tend to rust - use whichever ones you want but I include both sets) for $15 per saddle plus $3 shipping per order. If you need only one saddle, but want a full set of stainless steel screws I include the extras free (I hate non-matching hardware almost as much as hardware rusted into place. Rusted screws are a pain to remove too). Any questions - please email me at stongemonataoldotcom. Thanks.
serial Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 $15 per saddle is a great price for NOS original saddles. The Stonge (2FIG) bridges were/are of very high quality-I had one mounted on a Sunburst for years and only took it off because I found a year-correct one in nice shape.
stonge Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 Thanks, Steve. The repro bridges/saddles that I built were completely milled out of brass bar stock on a 1950's Bridgeport milling machine (it had a 4 digit serial number - probably the only 4-digit that Peter would never want lol) in an unheated garage in February (ask me sometime about the wrong way to light a propane heater lol). My repro parts were .385 width on the saddles and .385 spacing on the baseplate (to split the difference on the ones I measured), but if I had scored those NOS saddles first I would have saved myself a ton of aggravation (milling saddles completely out of bar stock, drilling, tapping, and cutting the string feed ramp). I have a couple of extra baseplates for personal use, and the .375 NOS saddles on .385 repro spacing baseplates doesn't look too bad. I dropped $3K on the sustainblock repro project between tooling and rebuilding that old Bridgeport, and the remaining repro bridges are to be forever enshrined in the hall of STUPID IDEAS - as I told mrs stonge 'if I ever get another smart-arse idea about building guitar parts, remind me of this, ok?' She saw the invoices I taught her how to run the Bridgeport though, and she milled out a few of the baseplates. Couldn't get her to tap all those stupid little threaded holes in the saddles though... She saw how much fun I was having lol.
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