sirDaniel Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 question for the tour specialists.Best way to integrate multiple guitars to one amp rig. Multiple transmitters/same receiver? or multiple wireless systems and a signal splitter?I run all EV
Thundernotes Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 Multiple transmitters are fine for switching guitars, but you have to make sure the transmitters on your unused guitars get turned off, or all hell can break loose.I like the separate system approach
Ethan Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 Most touring guys I've seen use a splitter to switch between a few different receivers, with maybe 2 transmitters apiece for said receivers. I think it really depends on how many guitars you have.Edited to add...OR if you're touring for a brokeass band like I was, then you're switching between a wireless that's crapping out and a cable during songs, ha!
Jeff R Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 Edited to add...OR if you're touring for a brokeass band like I was, then you're switching between a wireless that's crapping out and a cable during songs, ha!That was me Saturday night haha! After the issue I ran into (let a guy sit in on guitar for a song and a transmitter connection got whacked), I decided I'm going to run a "hard" line purist backup from here on out just in case my wireless system or my pedalboard dies mid-gig. That was the second time my wireless crapped out, the first time was a mishap where Pat-e was jumping on KK's drum riser to sing with him and kicked a buncha cables loose. Make note it's not always a mechanical failure, and to strategically hide all cables and wiring!On the other thing, price out multiple transmitters feeding one receiver versus totally separate systems. Dunno from personal experience, but I've heard transmitters alone are relatively expensive compared to whole systems. I guess the manufacturers realize the transmitters take the lion's share of the abuse.I use a Shure PGX system, by the way, and I swap my transmitter between guitars. I use one guitar first set and a second the second set and swap the transmitter during the break.
Thundernotes Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 One very important note to all reading this: There are huge unresolved issues, and some big changes coming to the guitar/mic wireless product world. FCC allocation changes are rendering some frequencies illegal and unusable. Be very wary of bargains showing up on ebay - they could be cheap for a reason.http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/PressRoom/Wh...whitespacespage
Ethan Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Generally I find the little cables that you connect your transmitter to your guitar with to be the biggest problems in the whole wireless chain. When I was out with the band I mentioned before, we must have gone through like 8 or 9 of those cables between 3 dudes...playing 25 minute sets! I had better luck with them later (playing way longer sets on a longer tour, go figure), but I learned how to make them in case I needed to fix them up or order some parts to make a bunch of them in a pinch.
sirDaniel Posted December 16, 2009 Author Posted December 16, 2009 well,I have 8 EV receivers and 8 transmitters. Quantity is not the issue. Quality is not the issue. The issue is, do I "split" them, or just one 1 receiver and common freq transmitters. I don't mind actually turning the tranmitters off/on when switching guitars. I would rather have the transmitters on the straps and switch guitars. The alternative is having the transmitters on my belt and just unplugging.My setup is based around a dual setup as 3 of my guitars are hybrid electric / acoustic. Having wireless guarantees no ground loops. Wondering mainly how the big tours handle it....
Ethan Posted December 17, 2009 Posted December 17, 2009 I guess I am not quite understanding your question. When I was touring with the band opening for the All-American Rejects, their setups had all their wireless systems going into a Whirlwind Multi-Selector, which fed into the rest of their rigs. When it was time to do a guitar change, their techs would hand them the guitar and hit the button on the Whirlwhind for whatever wireless system was going to be used. Do your hybrid guitars require two outputs to be sent at the same time? Maybe you could use the ones used with your acoustic outputs on all the same channel/frequency to be sent to your acoustic rig, and then have different ones for your electric rig and get some kind of switchbox where you'd be able to switch to whatever setup you had going on at the time...I'll reread this when I've had some sleep, I apologize as I'm just theorizing, I've never had to set up a rig like that before. Maybe go over to the Huge Racks Inc. forum and post that on there, there's a ton of professional guitarists and techs that would know what to do...
sirDaniel Posted December 17, 2009 Author Posted December 17, 2009 I guess I am not quite understanding your question. When I was touring with the band opening for the All-American Rejects, their setups had all their wireless systems going into a Whirlwind Multi-Selector, which fed into the rest of their rigs. When it was time to do a guitar change, their techs would hand them the guitar and hit the button on the Whirlwhind for whatever wireless system was going to be used. thats what I was looking for.
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Best way to integrate multiple guitars to one amp rig. Multiple transmitters/same receiver? or multiple wireless systems and a signal splitter?
I run all EV
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