Mixer with effects?

[hamerhead]

Looking to replace my Mackie 1402 and rack effects with something similar in size but with effects built-in. So far I like the Soundcraft EFX12, the Mackie ProFX16v3 and the Yamaha MG16XU.

Anything else I should look at?

[Jimbilly]

2 hours ago, scottcald said:

Yeah, been there before.  Also depending, the ol' kick and snare mic will work in a pinch.  The cymbals will cut through.  

Cool, congrats!

 You could also not mic the drums, and ask the drummer to play louder, but they hate that  

[scottcald]

I don't mind them playing, but playing like you're Bonham in a stadium when you're in a bar with 50 people is a little much.  😄

[hamerhead]

After just messing with this a bit - IT ALL WORKS!!

The only nit I have is that there is no resistance in the faders. They just move too easily. All of the knobs have it, but not the faders. They feel really cheap in that regard. They function fine but I think a strong breeze could change the settings.

[Jimbilly]

Another thought or two on drums: if the room is not large, you don't have a sub, and your speakers aren't large, I wouldn't bother mic-ing the kick, otherwise you're trying to get a 60-80hz chest thump out of your do-it-all single 15 speakers.

  Two overhead condensers on the drums can add quite a bit of 'dimension' to the drums, making them sound bigger and more 3d, without making them very much louder (if you're in stereo, pan one mic left and the other right), and the overheads should pick up the snare quite well. - This won't add too much time to your setup. 

[HSB0531]

2 hours ago, Jimbilly said:

Another thought or two on drums: if the room is not large, you don't have a sub, and your speakers aren't large, I wouldn't bother mic-ing the kick, otherwise you're trying to get a 60-80hz chest thump out of your do-it-all single 15 speakers.

  Two overhead condensers on the drums can add quite a bit of 'dimension' to the drums, making them sound bigger and more 3d, without making them very much louder (if you're in stereo, pan one mic left and the other right), and the overheads should pick up the snare quite well. - This won't add too much time to your setup. 

👍

[HSB0531]

6 hours ago, hamerhead said:

After just messing with this a bit - IT ALL WORKS!!

The only nit I have is that there is no resistance in the faders. They just move too easily. All of the knobs have it, but not the faders. They feel really cheap in that regard. They function fine but I think a strong breeze could change the settings.

Yes, faders will almost always have little resistance to no resistance on most current analog mixers.  The older large format consoles had the Penney & Giles faders which were weighted and were very expensive to replace.  When you get into the Soundcraft and other digital consoles you will get a fader with resistance to it. But that's mainly because it is motorized and not free sliding.   The good thing is that you've got the long throw 100mm faders and it looks like that's a nice rack sized mixer.

[scottcald]

Yeah, nothing beats a good 100mm fader.