2 sunbursts for sale.

[peedenmark7]

before I list or relist on the bay tonight... one more go here .

'80 B&C sunburst $1650

a few little dings, overall very nice. great playing piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/peed.../MVC-007S-1.jpg

SOLD> '78 B&C sunburst [currently has a L-510 in the bridge position] $ 1200

run hard and put to bed wet, original frets, lots of dings, but one you wont be afraid to play !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/peed.../MVC-002S-2.jpg

no trades , and cash is king.

[Guest pirateflynn]

I know I sound like a broken record but these early Sunbursts are the shit. Anybody riding the fence should pounce on one of these.

[flattop]

Ive had the early sunbursts/specials and the later 90,s stuff and the 90,s later sunbursts/studios sound much fatter to me.

All the early sunbursts sound too thin trebley to my ears.

I think the early stuff had lots of trial and error changes that the later ones have benefited from

[peedenmark7]

Ive had the early sunbursts/specials and the later 90,s stuff and the 90,s later sunbursts/studios sound much fatter to me.

All the early sunbursts sound too thin trebley to my ears.

I think the early stuff had lots of trial and error changes that the later ones have benefited from

I think its the special dimarzio pickups hamer used at that time that give them that distinct edgey tone.

other than the thicker tops and seymours there is no difference that I am aware of

to make a studio sound differently.

neck profiles are definately different.. I like some of the 90s sunbursts with floyds...

I shouldve bought the black one that a fellow hfc'er had for sale a few years a go.

its a matter of personal taste really... though I love the '70s sunbursts... I prefer an '80-82 for playing.

but a '90s sunburst is not even right church wrong pew compared to an early one

the '80 does have currently a super distortion in it.

may have an overseas taker on the '78. waiting for confirmation.

[Stokesdead]

Ive had the early sunbursts/specials and the later 90,s stuff and the 90,s later sunbursts/studios sound much fatter to me.

All the early sunbursts sound too thin trebley to my ears.

I think the early stuff had lots of trial and error changes that the later ones have benefited from

It seems rather rude to me to point out things you don't like about a particular guitar in someone's for sale add.

Why not start a new topic to discuss such things. If I am off base here then I apologize.

~CS

[peedenmark7]

Ive had the early sunbursts/specials and the later 90,s stuff and the 90,s later sunbursts/studios sound much fatter to me.

All the early sunbursts sound too thin trebley to my ears.

I think the early stuff had lots of trial and error changes that the later ones have benefited from

It seems rather rude to me to point out things you don't like about a particular guitar in someone's for sale add.

Why not start a new topic to discuss such things. If I am off base here then I apologize.

~CS

agreed , but entitled to his opinion and no harm done.

again ,its personal taste and if one has spent more time with newer hamers

its only natural that the old ones would sound/feel foreign to them.

[Stokesdead]

Yes I agree on all points.

[Travis]

Either one of these guitars would be a great buy. Those early Sunbursts are beasts of a differnet nature, entirely. I've not played any newer guitars like them. Maybe it's the one piece neck, the sustain block, or the ultra thin maple veneer. But the newer Studios feel and sound completely different to me. I'm not saying better or worse, just different.

Trust me, I've got a 78 Sunburst and it is an amazing guitar. I almost wish it wasn't in as good a shape as it is. Maybe then I wouldn't feel guilty about playing it.

Great guitars, great guy to deal with. You people are silly for not buying one or both of these guitars.

[Guest pirateflynn]

Ive had the early sunbursts/specials and the later 90,s stuff and the 90,s later sunbursts/studios sound much fatter to me.

All the early sunbursts sound too thin trebley to my ears.

I think the early stuff had lots of trial and error changes that the later ones have benefited from

You're off your rocker ....... but hey, I'm just getting to know you.

I had a great '95 Studio (like McChris'). It was cool but I prefer the early ones. Different strokes.

[BadgerDave]

Ive had the early sunbursts/specials and the later 90,s stuff and the 90,s later sunbursts/studios sound much fatter to me.

All the early sunbursts sound too thin trebley to my ears.

I think the early stuff had lots of trial and error changes that the later ones have benefited from

The only significant change made in the early Sunbursts was the switch to a three piece opposed grain neck in (IIRC) 1980. Some of the early Sunbursts developed twists in the necks. This happened, if at all, within a couple of years after production.

The "thin tone" is a combination of the reversed phase wiring that intentionally gives you a "Stratty" tone when both pickups are activated and the voicing of the bridge pickup. Either of these issues is easily addressed with reversable modifications. Simply switch the bridge pickup hot and ground connections to wire the pickup "in phase". I have also replaced the bridge pickup in old Specials and Sunbursts with a DiMarzio Virtual PAF.

[flattop]

Hey

Apologies if the post seemed "rude" wasnt intended,just making my point that i personally dont think the early stuff is as good as it seems,although there is definately a collectable value to it.

Its not the out of phase sound im going on about but the bridge humbucker alone sound is very thin and bright to my ears.

The 3 piece neck was introduced on 79 sunbursts and that doesnt affect the tone,maybe its those dimarzios or the sustain block that gives the shrill tone,but the tunomatic/seymour setup on later models gives a much fatter tone possibly a bit less sustain but definately a stronger tone.

Anyway good luck with the sale no harm intended.

[Disturber]

Wow, nice guitars. Someone grab fast!

The reason some think the early Sunbursts (and Standards) sound a little thin on the bridge pup is most certainly that the pickups placement is closer to the bridge than on later Hamer's. I have two 79 Sunbursts. One has such a unique tone I'd compare it to reverend Gibbons old pearly any day, it sounds that good. The other one has a thinner neck and is very light. It has a thinner tone, moves more into SG territory. It is also a great sounding guitar, but no where near my other Sunburst. I really love both guitars and no one is for sale. They have such a unique flavour of their own. Newer Hamer's can't compare. They are just as great, but can't cop the vintage feel.

[peedenmark7]

'78 sold pending payment.