veatch Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 Hey, My underwound set of Lollars came in yesterday. Got 'em in the Artist last night, and there is a definite improvement, especially in the bridge position. More clarity and presence. The high end is there without being thin, and the lows are there without getting farty when pushed. The difference isn't stark: they are both good PAF style pups, after all, but there is a difference. So, now i have the Seth Lovers that were displaced laying around. I was thinking about trying these in the DouTone. I'm also considering a set of Rio Grandes (BBQ and Gen TX) or, with all of the talk about the Gregwinds, trying a set of those. Trying the Seths is a freebie, but i figured i'd get ya'lls opinion on the matter, seeings yer all social and such.
veatch Posted April 2, 2008 Author Posted April 2, 2008 FWIW - I know talking about pups is always risky - 50 people have 50 opinions, etc. And, you likely need more info. Basically, i play a wide range, mostly blues/rock/classic rock oriented, but i need to clean up for cuntry and Jazz (though i usually go to the Howard Roberts for the Jazz stuff...), and need to get heavy when needed (not Metallica heavy - more like King's X...). I use DR Zebras on the DuoTone - 11 to 50 with a wound third string (makes solos *really* hard, but it does seem to make the acoustic push better...). The biggest problem i have with the current setup (i assume it is the original JB/59 combo) is that the neck breaks up on the low notes, not in a pleasant way, and there is not much definition at the neck. The bridge howls decently, and the harmonics are there, but the presence is a bit lacking. I'm not sure if that is the bridge or the pup that is the culprit there. The third string is quite dead, but i doubt there will be much i can do with that barring going back to an unwound G. In the middle, it is fairly balanced and warm, but again, no presence. Cutting through the mix is important, as i don't like doing the volume wars. Anyway, hopefully that info helps.
BubbaVO Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I liked the RioGrandes in a DuoTone. I liked them in the DT better than the JB/59 that came stock in my studio. I don't think you could go wrong with the RGs.
Bloozguy Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I've got a Rio in the bridge and stock Duncan in the neck on my DT and it sounds good...I'm still toying with putting Phat Cats in it though.
mr. papa Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 It may have just been my amp (Rivera Chubster) but I didn't like Seth Lovers in my hollowbody guitar. I thought the neck pickup was too bassy and the bridge pickup was too bright. I have that opinion about lots of Gibsons, though, so it could be me, too, but I wanted a tighter-bass neck and a fuller-mids bridge pickup. If I could do it again, I'd go '59s or maybe a JB / Jazz combination, or Fralins. Sounds like the Rio Grande's are closer to that.
silentman Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I put a Rio BBQ in the bridge of my Duo when I had it. Killed the JB. The Duncan '59 was great in that guitar.
tonyvieira Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 Hey, My underwound set of Lollars came in yesterday. Got 'em in the Artist last night, and there is a definite improvement, especially in the bridge position. More clarity and presence. The high end is there without being thin, and the lows are there without getting farty when pushed. The difference isn't stark: they are both good PAF style pups, after all, but there is a difference. So, now i have the Seth Lovers that were displaced laying around. I was thinking about trying these in the DouTone. I'm also considering a set of Rio Grandes (BBQ and Gen TX) or, with all of the talk about the Gregwinds, trying a set of those. Trying the Seths is a freebie, but i figured i'd get ya'lls opinion on the matter, seeings yer all social and such. A few years ago I bought a used 98 Duotone Custom from BCRGreg. I wanted different pups as I wanted to differentiate the Duotone form my Archtop Custom even more. Greg recommend the Rio Genunie Texas HB and installed them for me. I am very happy with the results. Very clear sounding, drives a Fender Vibroverb very nicely. Using the vol/tone control I can get the neck pup to go from mellow jazz to ringing blues tones. The bridge pup has plenty of bite without being harsh, I can use the volume to control the overdrive. I when he installed the pups he used the stock pots I do not know if he changed the tone cap. Anyway I can recommend the Rio Geninune Texas for a Dutone, in my case a duotone custom not the three holer. They do pick up pretty much every nuance of your playing so I will say they do not hide much.
Armitage Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 If you don't want those Seth Lovers... let me know...
veatch Posted April 2, 2008 Author Posted April 2, 2008 Five votes for the RGs so far... I'm seeing a trend. Armitage - as far as the Seths, i'll let you know. Right now i'm leaning toward keeping them in case i want/need to sell the Artist in the future. Tanx all.
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