jex Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Hi I need your advice, because I want to change my Hamer sunburst xt bridge when I play the 3rd cord on the 12th fret, the sustain is very little, as if there where a resonance interference. Should I go for a tonepros, like US studio; or Gotoh thank you PS : the new forum design is cool
murkat Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Need a close up pic to determine a clear path of opinion
gtone Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Warning - don't spend too much on modding an import, as you'll not likely recoup the expense if/when you sell. As such, the less expensive Gotoh would probably suffice instead of the more pricey TonePros model. FWIW, I went with the Gotoh Nashville setup on my import Standard Korina "polishing a turd" project and it's worked out well - much sturdier and less buzzy than stock, more precise intonation adjustment also. There were some tweaks needed, though. Stud holes had to be drilled out by a machinist friend to fit (don't know if Gotoh makes a model compatible with the imports, but I couldn't find one - YMMV). Also, the saddles on these come just lightly notched - some filing/dressing may be required depending on wants/needs. Some filing was needed to match the fretboard radius of my import (yours might be the same), Just my two cents...
murkat Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Standard issue asian POS metric bridge. Anything metric will be an improvement.
jex Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 Warning - don't spend too much on modding an import, as you'll not likely recoup the expense if/when you sell. As such, the less expensive Gotoh would probably suffice instead of the more pricey TonePros model. FWIW, I went with the Gotoh Nashville setup on my import Standard Korina "polishing a turd" project and it's worked out well - much sturdier and less buzzy than stock, more precise intonation adjustment also. There were some tweaks needed, though. Stud holes had to be drilled out by a machinist friend to fit (don't know if Gotoh makes a model compatible with the imports, but I couldn't find one - YMMV). Also, the saddles on these come just lightly notched - some filing/dressing may be required depending on wants/needs. Some filing was needed to match the fretboard radius of my import (yours might be the same), Just my two cents... was it a metric Model ? like this :
gtone Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 No - local dealer could not get the Nashville in metric model unfortunately. No worries as there was no charge from my buddy and the fit is perfect.
jex Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 Standard issue asian POS metric bridge. Anything metric will be an improvement.Tonepros is really better than Gotoh ?2 times more expensive
gtone Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Standard issue asian POS metric bridge. Anything metric will be an improvement.Those stock bridges really are a POS - the intonation would vary by as much as 5 cents either way on a digital tuner due to the slop in the adjustment screws!
zenmindbeginner Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 If your problem is damping at the 12th fret, then you have a fret issue and could use a leveling, crown and polish. Much more expensive than a bridge upgrade.I guarantee that if you replaced the bridge, you would still have the same problem.
jex Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 too bad !!anyway I need to upgrade the bridge , it is poor quality design
jex Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 If your problem is damping at the 12th fret, then you have a fret issue and could use a leveling, crown and polish. I just pick my guitar to have a jam, and I noticed that there is still damping problem when I play an 12th harmonic on the 3rd cordit can't be a fret problem
murkat Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 The new Gotoh will be an improvement over oem.
jex Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 Do you think there is a radius problem with the gotoh ?
murkat Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 most of them are a 12" radius.most inexpensive Asian import guitars are a sloppy radiused fret boards.
gtone Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 I think murkat is saying that the build quality of the imports is sloppier. In other words, you might not get a proper and even radius across the fretboard/frets as a result of the tolerances, materials and manufacturing methods used with these models.I'd suggest that you do what I did - get the Gotoh and set up each string individually at the saddle. That way, you should minimize the trouble spots to the extent possible (barring troublesome frets as Zenmindbeginner has suggested). Probably not the ultimate solution, but is perhaps an economical and practical way of dealing with the situation given that it's an import. If it were a Hamer USA model, of course, it'd be worth having a proper setup done by a good tech to get the bugs ironed out (but then again, odds are the build quality wouldn't have you in this pickle in the first place). If you can't solve this problem economically, don't throw a lot of money or effort at it - it's simply not worth it. Either buy yourself another import or better yet, get a US model - they're a bargain by any measure!
gorch Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 There is no clear answer in theory. I'd suggest to stop talking and start doing. Don't forget to post pics of the change.
jex Posted November 22, 2011 Author Posted November 22, 2011 All right, understood it now ! I bought the Gotoh today, i will send pics of it set upand that's why I'm looking for a US spécial, too, even shipped from US
jex Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 It's done ! Much better, the G note at the 12th is now singing the saddles are very sharp and you can see the seymour PU tHE old crappy bridge : The new Gotoh :
DaveL Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 question, can you get that gotoh bridge pre notched?
gtone Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Cured your problem - congrats! (Bet you can get much more precise intonation settings measured at 12th fret too).
jex Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 question, can you get that gotoh bridge pre notched?yes it is allready notched
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I need your advice, because I want to change my Hamer sunburst xt bridge
when I play the 3rd cord on the 12th fret, the sustain is very little, as if there where a resonance interference.
Should I go for a tonepros, like US studio; or Gotoh
thank you
PS : the new forum design is cool
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