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non original parts found on supposed 'all original' vintage instruments


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How much would you think non original potentiometers reduce the price of a supposed 'all original' guitar? How much of a percentage cut in price should one expect?

For example you pay 2k for an 'all original' guitar from the 70's, and find the pots are are of various dates from the 80's. 10%, 20%? Like to hear your thoughts.

Thanks!

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Didn't Dean, and Hamer work together at one time. Or was it Dean, and Jol? Then Dean decided to go off on his own? Thought I read that somewhere.

Nope.

Never. That's an internet lie.

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Dean and Hamer definitely shared materials and parts. They helped each other out with things like binding when one ran out as they were new, independent and geographically close.

Absolutely no formal working together, though, and the construction techniques are very different for each company.

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I like the old Deans and have owned five or six. Not quite at the level of four digit Hamers IMHO, but I like them and would get another someday. Theyre a little "cruder" in many ways than the older Hamers and much thinner, which I think makes the Hamers sound better.

Didn't Dean, and Hamer work together at one time. Or was it Dean, and Jol? Then Dean decided to go off on his own? Thought I read that somewhere.

Dean Zeilinsky was one of Paul Hamer's guitar students. That's the connection (I've spoken to both Dean and Paul a few times about that stuff for the book).

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Unless its someone like 30th Street in NYC...

Deans are cool:

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That looks like my bass! You still got that? Super cool!

Unfortunately, I stopped gigging on bass right around the time I picked that one up from BCR (it's a 1981-the others are 1980s) and it sat for a few years, so I let it go.

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Dean Zeilinsky was one of Paul Hamer's guitar students. That's the connection (I've spoken to both Dean and Paul a few times about that stuff for the book).

Yeah, that's what Dean told me too. He said they both talked about doing the all dressed up V and Explorers thing one day full time one day, (not necessarily together). When Dean left school he started his own company doing just that.

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