Schaller locking trem intonation tool?

[scottcald]

Is there a tool to easily set intonation on the Schaller locking trem a la "the key" for the original Floyd?  I've seen a similar tool for the Ibanez trem but I don't seem to see anything for the Schaller.  Has anyone seen such an item?  

Thanks. 

[DBraz]

I would love something like this.  Setting the intonation on Schaller terms is a bitch.  Sadly I do not believe anything suitable exists (yet).

[tbonesullivan]

I think the main problem is that the locking posts on the back of a schaller are just a barrel, and they don't have an end like many of the other Floyd Variants. With no place to attach to, LA Key type devices won't work.

[scottcald]

The one for the Ibanez I saw seemed to hook around the fine tuners and slot into the back of the saddle itself somehow, which is what made me wonder about the Schaller.  

https://www.bam-music.com/en/ibanez-ejk1000-e-jack-intonation-adj-tool.html

[Jeff R]

There's no tool I'm aware of for those short, stubby screws. You just have to set, test, reset, test, reset, test, until you get it right.

One tool I do use to assist with the job is this ... https://www.allparts.com/AW-0237-000-25mm-Hex-Allen-Wrench_p_523.html.  Easier to control torque ... during the reset/test/reset/test, I torque the screw just enough so that it will hold in place for the test. Once I dial intonation in right, then I apply more "finished" torque, still using this driver. It makes it more difficult to over-torque the screw if that makes sense.

 

[scottcald]

Thanks, Jeff, that's a great bit of advice.  I'll give it a go.  

[scottcald]

Wanted to follow up on this.  Before Jeff answered, I went ahead and ordered the Ibanez tool on Amazon.  Turns out it works!  I had to file the "tooth" that grabs into the saddle, but that was under 2 minutes of work with not that good of a file.  I set intonation of the low E with it with no problems.  Hope this helps anyone else with a Schaller. 

[scottcald]

[tbonesullivan]

Hmm... my schaller doesn't have locking bolts like that. Mine don't have any "head" on the end. With that,  you should be able to use La Key.

[Jeff R]

Yep, those aren't the typical Schaller Floyd short and barrel butt screws, aka, like these ...

[scottcald]

Yeah, I had ordered the shorter Floyd style screws initially to see if I could use the key with them, but they don't stick out quite enough.  Actually I should say I contacted Schaller and they simply sent them to me.  

[scottcald]

Here's a pic on a new Schaller for another project:

The fine tuner has to be most of the way up, but that's not a big deal. 

[Jeff R]

Ah, it pulls back from the saddle's clamp block hole, not the clamp screw like The Key. Nice, and smart!

[scottcald]

Yeah, it's engineered pretty well and has a second threaded hole for their different trems.  Wasn't sure it'd work, but it's a nice solution.