RRHamer Posted July 23, 2005 Posted July 23, 2005 Hi Guys! I don't post much on here but need some advice on a combo amp.Recently I cleaned up my act and stopped drikning and chasing strippers and when back to Church. I have been asked to play on the Worship team. So I need some kind of a small combo amp. I was thinking about one of the Line 6 or maybe one of the Marshall Valvestates. I would like effects built in.What would you all recomend?Thanks!
iownit4 Posted July 23, 2005 Posted July 23, 2005 I have a crate combo 1x12 60 watta all tube .. 2 channels clean + dirty,, It has a built in reverb ,, it has effects loop .. I paid 500.00 for this 2 years ago never gigged for u 275.00 + shipping ...
adferreira Posted July 23, 2005 Posted July 23, 2005 Line 6 pod tx running into an Atomic reactor 112.
hardheartedbill Posted July 23, 2005 Posted July 23, 2005 Tech 21 TM60, THE best amp you can use in the church situation, a direct out that sounds like an SM57 and you can turn off the speaker for POD like application, you may be able to get away w the TM10, and 10 watt version depending on your monitor situation, feels and responds like a tube amp
RRHamer Posted July 23, 2005 Author Posted July 23, 2005 I already have a POD Line 6, what is the Atomic reactor?I think I may go to Guitar Center today and look at some amps.
JohnnyB Posted July 23, 2005 Posted July 23, 2005 Suggestion: Try out a Roland Cube 60 I haven't played one, but I have a MicroCube, and the amp modeling is excellent. I've also had experience with digital pianos going back to 1991. Roland has tended to be at the front of the curve (sometimes creating the curve) on digital modeling. I'm certainly impressed with the Rolands' dynamic response to picking variations. Features: Single 12" speaker 9 COSM amp models including JC (Roland Jazz Chorus), British Combo (Vox AC-30), R-Fier (Mesa), Brit Stack (Marshall), Fender Blackface. Digital effects include chorus, flanger, phase, tremolo, and independent delay/reverb, and are really good Also good for recording, using as a direct box into a console or PA head, jamming with CD or iPod (it has the I/Os) or listening on headphone Get the optional footswitch, which gives you channel switching, delay/reverb, and effect on/off control If you want more of the vintage end of the amp spectrum, you might want to check out a Roland Blues Cube 60: They run more from the Tweed through the Plexi models, and the sound really good. A good Strat or G&L Legacy will really light one of these up. Roland's website isn't showing these anymore, so I guess Musicians Friend bought 'em up for closeout. They have these for $299 here.
Hamer95USA Posted July 23, 2005 Posted July 23, 2005 I already have a POD Line 6, what is the Atomic reactor?I think I may go to Guitar Center today and look at some amps. Hey RRHamer, If you have Line 6 POD, you'll love the Atomic amplifiers built by Harry Kolbe. Here is the link: http://www.atomicamps.com/ It allows you to use your POD as a preamp/effects unit onstage. The combo amp is all tube, puts out 18 watts and has an EV speaker housed in the chassis. The POD or other digital modeling preamp is housed in a module on top of the amp and has inputs for the POD. What I like about it is that the tubes improves the sound of the POD. You might also want to get a VHT Valvulator I before the POD to get rid of the digital graininess and give the POD some smooth tube tone. It also acts as buffer to improve your audio signal. Check it out!!! Guitar George
adferreira Posted July 23, 2005 Posted July 23, 2005 I really can't say enough good things about it.The Atomic made the POD a useable tool instead of a boonedoggle.http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-ATO-R112.htmlGet it thru them and you have 45 days to see if I am right. If not, return it and it's a minimal loss.
RRHamer Posted July 24, 2005 Author Posted July 24, 2005 I went to Guitar Center and checked out the Line 6 Spider 2 and Flextone 3 amps. I did not care for them. I also checked out a Behringer amp and did'nt like it either. I checked out the Marshall Valvestate, did'nt like it. I did play through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and Pro Junior at another store and liked them better. Is there anyone who makes a 8-10 watt all tube amp? I am pretty sure the only thing I will be happy with is an all tube amp.
Jorge Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 Is there anyone who makes a 8-10 watt all tube amp? I am pretty sure the only thing I will be happy with is an all tube amp. If so, difficult to improve one a sweet Fender Princeton Reverb. Unless you go BOOtek, of course...muchos pesos.
cloakerz Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 We use one of the new tube traynors at the church I go to. We mic it and it soundsreal real good. I used it a couple of weeks ago with my strat. Jim
Guest Mike Lee Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 Um, how about a Reverend Hellhound? Seems appropriate...
tobereeno Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier full stack A guy I know played on the worship team at church, and at one point, cranks the gain to 11 and then holds his guitar up over his head, where it starts to shriek and howl. The rest of the band stops and then someone asks him what the hell he's doing. His answer? "I'm offering feedback unto the Lord."
RRHamer Posted July 24, 2005 Author Posted July 24, 2005 What I would really like to do is just take both of my Marshall Stacks and my Hamer Standards, but if I did that some of the older folks would probably be going home to the Lord sooner than they had planned. Of course maybe they would not mind to much! I think if I can find the Traynor amp to check out I will probably just go with the Fender Pro Junior or Blues Junior. The Hot Rod Deluxe is a great sounding amp but even though it is just 40 watts it is still really loud. I could hardly get the volume off 1 or 2. I think if I just ran a Blues Junior set up clean and stuck my Sparkle Drive in front of it for a lead boost that would work fine.
paul144 Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 Ok, tubes..Carvin Vintage 16. Just add JJ tubes. They come with a Celestion Vintage 30 now too. I put a Reverend Alltone 12" in mine and it sounds great. Switchable down to 5 watts too. $399 at carvin.com. Weighs around 25lbs too. Put it on a chair and stand back!
JohnnyB Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 We use one of the new tube traynors at the church I go to. We mic it and it soundsreal real good. I used it a couple of weeks ago with my strat.                                            Jim A BIG +1 for the Traynor tube amps. The 40-watt YCV-40 1x12 isn't a modeler, but it's incredibly versatile and you can get a new one easily for $599. It's 2 6L6s making 40-50 watts pushing a special Celestion 12"The YCV-20 is a 20w 1x12 with an EL-84 power section. It's about the same price as the YCV-40.Pick the one that matches your taste -- the 40 would sound more Fendery-American, the YCV-20 more British.Either one has an unmistakably all-tube sound (cuz it is, w/SS rectifier), and they're very responsive to playing dynamics. Distortion channel is very sweet, too.
cloakerz Posted July 24, 2005 Posted July 24, 2005 the traynor is the 40 watt model previously mentioned. I used my barber directdrive with it and had some great tones. Used the amp for the crunchy tones and the barber to push the clean channel a little. I was thinking about bringing my mesa dc-5 to church but glad I didn't. Traynor did the job well and I didn't have to carry that mesa which seems like 100lbs or so.
RRHamer Posted July 25, 2005 Author Posted July 25, 2005 You guys who have the Traynors have you also played through the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and Blues Junior? If so how do they compare? I don't think there is a Traynor dealer in my area. I was looking at the Traynor website tonight and the setup of the Traynor I like much better than that of the Fenders. The Traynor seems much more versatile than the Fenders.
JohnnyB Posted July 25, 2005 Posted July 25, 2005 ...I was thinking about bringing my mesa dc-5 to church but glad I didn't. Traynor did the job well and I didn't have to carry that mesa which seems like 100lbs or so.The DC-5 may seem like 100 lbs., but the DC-10 (which I have) nearly is -- something like 95 lbs.That's another cool thing about the Traynor YCV-40 -- a lot of tube-driven power and volume in a combo that's about 38 lbs.
JohnnyB Posted July 25, 2005 Posted July 25, 2005 You guys who have the Traynors have you also played through the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and Blues Junior? If so how do they compare? I don't think there is a Traynor dealer in my area. I was looking at the Traynor website tonight and the setup of the Traynor I like much better than that of the Fenders. The Traynor seems much more versatile than the Fenders. I've played extensively through the Traynor YCV-40 and Hot Rod Deluxe, and used to own a Blues Junior. Some people love their Hot Rods, but I've generally found them to be brittle and thin-sounding. Could be inconsistencies in tubes or bias settings.I consider the Traynor head and shoulders above those particular Fenders. There's a great gutsy, ballsy sound to it, good tight bass, great dynamic expressivity, and excellent clean and distorted sounds. And the cabinets are real wood and have a perforated metal grill to protect the speaker. I'd buy it over the Hot Rod Deluxe in a heartbeat. It's pure magic with a Phat Cat Newport (among other things).
RRHamer Posted July 25, 2005 Author Posted July 25, 2005 I found a music equipment rental place here in Austin that rents Traynor Amps.I don't think that they have the YCV20, but they have the YCV40. So I can rent one for a weekend or a month to check it out. How would you all say the YCV40 compares to the YCV20? Right now I am leaning toward the YCV20 because it has EL-84's and a Greenback Celestion available in the YCV20WR, which should give it more of a Brit sound. Also are the Tech 21 amps tube or solid state?
straightblues Posted July 25, 2005 Posted July 25, 2005 My first choice for your application would be the Roland cube series amps.If it has to be tubes, you may want to check out the Ephiphone Galixe amp. It is a decent 10 watt tubes amp. They are on sale for $149 at muscians friend right now.http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/fg=141...ase_pid/480255/I don't think you will get good tone out of the Pro Jr. or the Blues Junior at Church volumes. The Hot Rod Dleuxe is way overkill.
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