KeyOfZ Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Who plays in the lead break in "Symphony of Destruction" My god that is one of the tastiest heavy metal solos Ive ever heard. It doesnt go overboard and its just goes with the groove so damn well.I like Megadeths music more than Metallicas but I have to say I like Hetfields singing better....man...if they had only stayed together. That would be Mr. Marty Friedman and you are correct.....tasty as hell. You should check out Dragon Mistress further up in this thread...scary phrasing.
killertone Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 If you haven't heard Marty's solo record Scenes go get it now!! It was put out in 91 or 92 on Shrapnel records. Produced by Japanese wonder Kitaro, it sounds like nothing else I have heard. I have had my copy since the day it came out and it still gets regular listens to this day!!
Submariner85 Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Has nothing to do with Megadeth but another band I listened to heavily in the 80s and 90s was Queensryche.I like Chris Degarmo's style alot. Another Rainy Night, Waiting for 22, man lots of good melodic rythm and solos on all their albums Empire, Operation Mindcrime, Warning, Rage For Order and the EP........I stopped buying their stuff after Empire....oh well.
KeyOfZ Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 If you haven't heard Marty's solo record Scenes go get it now!! It was put out in 91 or 92 on Shrapnel records. Produced by Japanese wonder Kitaro, it sounds like nothing else I have heard. I have had my copy since the day it came out and it still gets regular listens to this day!! Yes I love that one as well, Introduction is along the same lines and has some pretty beautiful tracks as well.Music for Speeding is his latest solo effort, really modern sound. Shred mixed with synth guitar.
KeyOfZ Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Found this interview with Dave Mustaine where he actually mentions looking at Hamer for his signature guitar:Dave Mustaine InterviewDan Epstein: After all those years playing Jackson Flying V's, why have you now switched to ESP? Dave Mustaine: Well, Jackson came up for sale a couple of times and I wanted to buy it, and then each time the sale was pulled. And then they tried to sell it a third time - I was contacted again by somebody within the company who said they wanted me to buy it, because we'd been friends for such a long time. And while we were positioning ourselves to buy the company they sold it to Fender, which I thought was a bit disrespectful knowing that I'm the number one endorser they had. But I let go. DE: Did you head straight to ESP from there? DM: I contacted Hamer, Gibson, and EEP. Hamer is a really small company, so they were going to have a hard time keeping up with what I want for my endorsement, let alone answering the sales orders that people put in because of the guitars I endorse. I talked to Gibson and they were excited but they could not reconfigure the guitar to be a 24 fret guitar, so I was kind of handcuffed there. So I talked to Marsh Gooch, Matt Masciandaro, and Jose Ferro at ESP. They said, "We have a V, but we discontinued it because no one's endorsing it." I went into their warehouse and I picked up one of their flying V's - it was called a V350 at the time - and I went, "Fuck this thing's awesome" and I said, "Yeah, I'm willing to play this guitar, if you're willing to make a couple of changes on it to make it even better." So we made some changes with the body, the headstock, some of the inlay stuff, and the knobs and electronic configuration.
atquinn Posted October 6, 2005 Author Posted October 6, 2005 Well, I've done some listening and...color me impressed ! I can't believe he was replaced by Kirk Hamster (who seems like even more of a hack when compared to Mustaine ). -Austin
KeyOfZ Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Well, I've done some listening and...color me impressed ! I can't believe he was replaced by Kirk Hamster (who seems like even more of a hack when compared to Mustaine ). -Austin In some cases I agree with you but Hammets playing went downhill after Master of Puppets. I haven't heard anything from him recently that has impressed me as much as some of the stuff on Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets (or even Kill em All) Kirk used to be a lot more impressive than he is now....I guess those lessons from Satriani didn't pay off? Mustaine will and always has, crushed him in the rythm dept.
MrGuitarguy Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 The stuff that Dave wrote as well as most of the solos on Kill em' All were note for note copies of Dave's orginal solos. Dave has mentioned this in a number of interviews. I always found Hammet's playing to be totally boring. Just play pull offs and step all the way down on a wah pedal and you can sound just like him. lol! I'm always amazed the the most popular metal band had one of the lamest lead guitarist. Even at every music store I've ever worked at all the teachers and players always hated Hammet. It's just the newer players that seem to love him until they get a few years under their belts. I always thought that was funny.
Submariner85 Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Does anyone have or have listened to MD.45?It was Dave's side project with Lee Ving, Kelly LeMieux, Jimmy DeGrasso
Scottcrud Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 it ain't that great, the MD-45 thing and I thought it would be being a big fan of Megadeth and Fear.
MrGuitarguy Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I have the orginal MD.45 release, but Dave redid it singing he vocals himself and making some other changes. Supposedly it is much better that way, but I haven't heard it.
Submariner85 Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I had heard about it, then saw it in the store but didn't buy it because all I ever heard about it was that it sucked. Thanks for confirming that for me.
Big Country Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Watching Mustaine play while singing is impressive. His rhythms are complex, but he sings like there is no problem at all. It's sort of like watching Geddy Lee frailing away while singing. Agreed. Both those guys are absolutely sick musicians. Top of any list. Daves playing is amazing. Back in the day he created some really unique songs. Still love em today.~thomas
Brooks Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 i was more impressed by chris poland than the rest of the mega/metalli dudes. his 1st solo cd "return to metalopolis" has some good stuff. his 1st OHM cd was weak tune wise, but had some great playing w/ unusual phrasing and note choices.
killertone Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I always found Hammet's playing to be totally boring. Just play pull offs and step all the way down on a wah pedal and you can sound just like him. Someone needs to hook up a low voltage shock to the wah pedal so every time he steps on it ot shocks him silly. Maybe then he'll stop. Enough with the Wah and the Em pentatonic. Jeez!!!
GuitarDoyle Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Dave is a great player and holds some weight in the industry so it makes sense you see his name in a lot of magazines plus I think Mega is trying to make kind of a comeback of sorts.
Abaco Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I heard the latest release and I was very disapointed in Mustane's playing. I also have Freidman's "Music for Speeding" and have hung onto it so that I may throw it out the window of my truck while traveling at a high speed down the freeway.
KeyOfZ Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I heard the latest release and I was very disapointed in Mustane's playing. I also have Freidman's "Music for Speeding" and have hung onto it so that I may throw it out the window of my truck while traveling at a high speed down the freeway. Ouch man! Tough room IMHO - Marty is the best thing to happen to metal guitar in a long time. I can't think of anyone today or over the last 10 years that has pushed the envelope more than he has but then again what do I know.....I had a mullet about 6 or 7 years ago.
Scottcrud Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 "Killertone" said"Someone needs to hook up a low voltage shock to the wah pedal so every time he steps on it ot shocks him silly. Maybe then he'll stop. Enough with the Wah and the Em pentatonic. Jeez!!!"Hey, that's my whole solo aproach!!
killertone Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 IMHO - Marty is the best thing to happen to metal guitar in a long time. I can't think of anyone today or over the last 10 years that has pushed the envelope more than he has but then again what do I know.....I had a mullet about 6 or 7 years ago. Too bad he hasn't played metal in almost 10 years. the last Megadeth release he was on, Risk, has got to be the biggest pile of shit I have ever heard. And now he lives in Japan and plays J-pop for a living. Nothing pisses me off more than someone turning their back on what made them famous. Alex Skolnick (of Testament, to study and play jazz) got over it recently and I think it is very good thing. He recognized that being in Testament was why he had any notoriety at all.
MrGuitarguy Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 Too bad he hasn't played metal in almost 10 years. the last Megadeth release he was on, Risk, has got to be the biggest pile of shit I have ever heard. And now he lives in Japan and plays J-pop for a living. Nothing pisses me off more than someone turning their back on what made them famous. Alex Skolnick (of Testament, to study and play jazz) got over it recently and I think it is very good thing. He recognized that being in Testament was why he had any notoriety at all. I don't think either of those guys are ashamed of what they've done in the past, but just though it was time for a change. That's hardly turning their backs. I mean how long can you play metal? It's not like it's a genre that offers an ultra wide variety in playing. Both of them just felt it was time to do something new. I'd do the same thing. They're following their hearts and that's integrity, plain and simple. Sticking with something they hated to continue to be successful, that's selling out.I couldn't listen to metal all the time any more than I could only eat pizza everyday. After a while no matter what you put on it, it's still pizza and it gets old after a while. I know I couldn't play one style of music all the time either. Carlos Santana once said something along the lines of: "I don't get upset when people criticize me or Eric Clapton for doing something different. We're open and they're not."I say follow your heart and play what you want. You can't make music from the heart if you don't love what you do. I make the music that I'm proud of. A lot of people seem to really like it and that's awesome, but I wrote it for myself. Besides when it comes down to it there are really only two kinds of music in the world: The kind you like and the kind you don't.
rmahurin Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 Skolnick has done about a dozen Testament reunion shows this year.http://www.testamentlegions.comSaw Megadeth in `87 in a 400 seat club (opener was Warlock with that hot Eurobabe fronting). Still the best metal guitar tone i've ever heard live.
killertone Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 I have no problem with someone who follows their heart and wants to explore new avenues, in fact I think it's great. But I met both of those guys a few years ago and they shunned their pasts. I hung with Alex for two days at a guitar school where I used to teach and he pretty much told me that. I am a huge fam of his both for his metal playing and his jazz stuff. Basically what I was trying to say is don't forget where you came from and what made you who you are. And undoubtedly that was/is Testament for Alex and Megadeth/Cacophony for Marty.
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