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I've met AT and saw him play clinics at a couple of vintage shows, and Bruiser Brody reintroduced me to his stuff recently. I absolutely love this guy's playing.

I'm "trying" to learn this one note-for-note right now - great balance between fun, melodic song and REAL fretboard workout. That rhythm is deceivably difficult and believe me, it's a workout and my progress is eh, not as fast as I'd like it to be hahaha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2sxEyQomE...feature=related

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Jeff R,

Yes sir! Mr. Andy Timmons is a righteous dude and I have loved his style for a long time. His last release on Favored Nations, Resolution is a fav.

The man rocks.

Hamerica

Guest JackButler
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Andy is a cool guy all the way around!

Jeff.. for a lot of that stuff.. think parallel keys.. you know, like pitch axis kind of stuff..

a lot of Andy's stuff will draw off of say a "D" tonality and borrow from D Mixolydian and D Phrygian Dominant (both can be blended because they share a Major third, perfect fourth and perfect fifth)..but then you can also draw from the minor pentatonic (blues scale) 'cuz..mixo and the blues scale both have the b7 which almost always gets bent up to the root/"1"..so does the fourth.. it gets bent up to the fifth.. and you can also borrow from the Major pentatonic too.. so you have these phrases that make up "hybrids" borrowing from all of these scales that share common tones and a common "1"/root not..

Satriani would call it "Pitch Axis".. and in the above example the D would be the pivot.. the sparser the chord progression or like on Andy's newest album the lack of a rhythm guitar track helps.. playing only over the bass and NOT always being locked into what another guitar is playing helps free you up with more options.. Vai also does this alot.. he will just take the rhythm guitar track right out of a tune when he solos.. but Andy and Satch use the approach for composing an entire song where as Vai tends to really do it more in the solo section only.

Sorry for the long post..just finished off a pot of espresso all by myself.

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I eat this kind of stuff up!

I have "Sheets of Sound" It says the melody part is stronger harmonically than the harmony. So you can get away with a lot of stuff when soloing because the ear follows the solo and the chords are in the background.

Maybe this is why Vai solos this way.

Personally I combine several scales when soloing - I will usually combine scales in the same solo - hanging on some notes for color and using others as passing notes.

Typically I will combine several or all of these into one solo:

Pentatonic Minor

Pentatonic Major

Regular Minor

Regular Major scale

Major Blues

Minor Blues

Harmonic Minor

Diminished

Chromatic

When you do it this way I find you can play just about any chromatic note on the guitar when soloing - but they have to be in the right order as determined by the notes in front and the notes afterwards when you solo.

Takes a lot of practice to know how to do this on the fly and not hit a dissonant note.

MAN THIS FORUM IS SLOW TODAY!

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Timmons always has such great tone!

-Austin

+1 ... I used the studio version of the above song to dial in my ears, so to speak, while I was playing around with my Mark III's gain channel recently and was quite pleased with the results. Some tweaks on the gain settings got my III singing instead of sizzling, which should make complete sense to the Boogie fans on the board (LOL). AT's supposedly using a Stilletto these days.

I also passed by one of the local haunts yesterday and found they had a couple of Lone Stars in stock. AT's using a two-amp system with the LS for clean and pushed/bluesy tones. I plan to go by again very soon carrying my favorite guitar - and not carrying my wallet for safety's sake hahaha.

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Kevin, please step in w/ this kind of stuff anytime. Seriously, it's much appreciated!!

Guest JackButler
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Kevin, please step in w/ this kind of stuff anytime. Seriously, it's much appreciated!!

THANKS! Glad it was of interest/helpful. :angry:

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andy's great!! used to see him live when i was in college.

hung out w/ his bassist mike daane a little back then.

bruiser brody took lessons from andy!

even tho a lot of andys stuff is derivitive of satch/vai,

i actually prefer andy due to his more melodic soloing and sweeter tone.

plus he can play jazz, chicken pickin country, he's a monster.

ya gotta pick up his 1st favored nations release, "that was then", its the best of his indy stuff, strong.

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I've met AT and saw him play clinics at a couple of vintage shows, and Bruiser Brody reintroduced me to his stuff recently. I absolutely love this guy's playing.

I'm "trying" to learn this one note-for-note right now - great balance between fun, melodic song and REAL fretboard workout. That rhythm is deceivably difficult and believe me, it's a workout and my progress is eh, not as fast as I'd like it to be hahaha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2sxEyQomE...feature=related

imho andy is the best rock guitarist out there today, he has no holes in his playing, incredible tone,killer phrasing, great vibrato, monster chops and tons o taste, can't get enough of this dude................

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