Marshall amps sold?

[LucSulla]

On 11/7/2023 at 9:33 AM, tbonesullivan said:

Oh wow, a Billion Dollar company? Maybe then they can afford to go back and fix almost the entire run of JCM2000 DSL50, DSL100, TSL60, and TSL100 amplifiers, which if made before 2005 will have their main tube PCB become conductive at high heat, and blow up their tubes.

 

That guy lives just up the road from me. I keep threatening to have him put an American transformer in my Jube. 

RE the TSL - I bought a TSL60 Combo in 2000 and played on it as my only amp until 2010. At the time, I didn't know shit about impedance matching and only barely understood bias by about 2008. I mostly ran it into a Marshall 4x12, but on occasion ran all six speakers together without switching anything around. Rolled power tubes through it and never rebiased anything. Aside from the footswitch, which was designed so that the solder joints in the pedal were actually the only thing attaching the cable to the pedal, I never had an issue with it. I mean, I put that amp through hell, gigged the shit out of it, did many sessions with everything on 11, and it always worked. 

I bought a Mesa Mark V to replace it, which is when I finally decided to learn what things like FX Loops and those Ohm switches in the back were used for. By all rights, if any TSL was ever going to go conductive, mine should have. This isn't to say I don't believe this is a problem; I know it is. Now, haha. I was completely oblivious to the whole scandal for that whole decade though. 

I'd love to play through one again knowing how amps actually work now. One reason I didn't know jack shit about amps was because that one was so easy to deal with. By the time I got around to running it with EHX 12AX7s and Ei 6CA7s, it did so exactly what I wanted an amp to do so easily that I just never saw a point in learning more. Sounded good and always turned on. Waaaay easier to live with than that Mesa ever was. 

I've threatened to buy one with the updates board several times in the last few years. I have to be one of the only people who ever gigged one of these so long and always loved it. Here's a clip from back in like 2008 or so. 

 

[DaveH]

Ignorance is bliss, for sure. At least until something breaks/blows/smokes. You were lucky, no doubt about it. On the opposite end, a guy can drive himself crazy if he gets too anal.

[tbonesullivan]

2 hours ago, LucSulla said:

I'd love to play through one again knowing how amps actually work now. One reason I didn't know jack shit about amps was because that one was so easy to deal with. By the time I got around to running it with EHX 12AX7s and Ei 6CA7s, it did so exactly what I wanted an amp to do so easily that I just never saw a point in learning more. Sounded good and always turned on. Waaaay easier to live with than that Mesa ever was. 

I've threatened to buy one with the updates board several times in the last few years. I have to be one of the only people who ever gigged one of these so long and always loved it. Here's a clip from back in like 2008 or so.

NICE! I loved the sound of the TSL122. A bit loud, and in retrospect I probably should have gotten the 60 watter. But it did that Marshal thing that I loved for years, and I always had figured that I dodged the bullet.

But then I was in the middle of a virtual guitar lesson with the TSL. It started to hum pretty bad, which I have never heard from it before. Then I smelled warm tolex, and quickly looked in the back ,and the heck if one tube wasn't glowing all red. I had biased those tubes myself at  50% dissipation, and left it on for 2 hours, but, that was out of the cabinet.  So, I haven't turned it on sine, trying to decide what the best way to really have my marshall "fix" is. I also like reverb. I know many Marshall purists are anti-reverb, but I like reverb.  I'm on the fence about seeing if I can send it over to Psionic, or seeing whether someone local can fix it for me. He definitely knows how to get the boards for them, and the problems that the replacement boards show up with.

[HSB0531]

On 11/4/2023 at 1:47 PM, RobB said:

It gets a bit, “eye-rollish”, hearing the bean-counters go on about market share, etc.

I’m glad Marshall is staying European. Surely they fielded offers from all over the world that were more lucrative than what Zounds brought. 

I don't know....it all Zounds pretty good to me!

[scottcald]

On 11/4/2023 at 1:47 PM, RobB said:

It gets a bit, “eye-rollish”, hearing the bean-counters go on about market share, etc.

I’m glad Marshall is staying European. Surely they fielded offers from all over the world that were more lucrative than what Zounds brought. 

That could simply be marketing people.  They run everything now.  They're the ones who tell us we need a "personal brand".  

[Disturber]

Some recent news from the cows mouth.

https://www.guitarworld.com/features/marshall-amps-ceo-jeremy-de-maillard-interview-2024?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_content=guitar-world