There's a big difference between what was metal then and what is reckoned metal today. Did they play Venom, Bathory or Ministry on mtv in the 80s? On ordinary music video shows (not the metalshows) in NOrway the play Satyricon and Stonegard in addition to all the britney and christina crap. Dimmu Borgir has sold over a million records, and black metal was a very small underground scene only 10 years ago. From what I understand the metalcore thing is VERY big in america these days, so calling it a fringe appeal is from my point of view an understatement I play heavy metal on my standard and agree with the person who said that metal is in your fingers, not in your axe. I saw a concertclip with Dark Tranquillity, I belive it was "punish my heaven" (great song by the way), where Niklas Sundin played a strat with single coils, so you don't have to have a BC Rich with EMGs to play metal.