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Rockola Veteran HFCer

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Gee, I have broad enough tastes to enjoy most of the artists mentioned here. There are some I would avoid (Yngwie does as much for me as Trey) I just don't happen to post about them everytime a new thread evolves.

Everyone knows you dislike metal/shred more than Manuel Noriega so please stop tilting at windmills.

regards,

S.

copper blue Inner Circle

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But you guys can listen to whatever you like...I'm entitled to my opinion as much as you..

Of course you do. But when you go OUT OF YOUR WAY to rail against shred music (which isn't my thing either; I feel the same way about it as Brooks does) you can and should expect to be called out on it.

You don't like shred. We get it. So why chime in on this thread unless you wanted to stir something up? Maybe that's exactly what you wanted to do; hell, I do it all the time myself. Just don't go getting all defensive when someone reacts. After all, isn't that what you wanted? A reaction? Well done, sir ... you got it.

Now then. What's the REAL reason you hate shred/hair metal? Are you jealous that you didn't/don't have the work ethic/talent to achieve that level of skill? Did the people who threw you in lockers and kicked your ass in high school listen to hair metal? Does the sight of men dressed up as women cause a tingling in your loins that you're not comfortable with?

Honestly ... WHAT THE FUCK IS IT?

my issue with this music is that it doesn't do ANYTHING for me..jealous of technique? not one bit..I'm not saying they don't have talent for their trade, but it doesnt say anything! It's one thing to have a rhythm section set up up so you can wing some chops and show off, but another thing entirely when you can play as a part of the song...it's the song baby!! Don't throw out an E minor comp and then just wail away showing off your dexterious digits! It seems that these shredders like to throw out Hendrix and Van Halen as influences, but have completely missed the "feeling" for the song! I'll give EVH props for his style cos it was new and whatnot and well..Hendrix is Hendrix,'nuff said..But, I think EVH played with more heart..and THAT is the difference..no heart, no soul...it dosen't even come to me NOT liking VH, but giving him some respect for his talent..

and for the record, NOBODY threw me in a locker in school, nobody beat my ass at anytime in my life, other than my dad when he caught me smoking when I was 9...

I'm just too nice a guy...

copper blue Inner Circle

copper blue

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Gee, I have broad enough tastes to enjoy most of the artists mentioned here. There are some I would avoid (Yngwie does as much for me as Trey) I just don't happen to post about them everytime a new thread evolves.

Everyone knows you dislike metal/shred more than Manuel Noriega so please stop tilting at windmills.

regards,

S.

Tilting at windmills

I'm always trying

To knock things down

Or bring 'em around

But they don't come down

They won't come around

Like society

Or that girl that I used to see

Now these are things that just don't change

But I'm tilting at windmills

All the same

hardheartedbill Veteran HFCer

hardheartedbill

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the answer to the question? why did you post at all? I'm not upset and don't really care, but why not just leave Buckethead unread, you know you hate him, you know you won't like it. I find myself not posting on tons of things that I find stupid or w/o feeling ( and who are you to judge anothers feeling ).

MCChris Veteran HFCer

MCChris

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Don't throw out an E minor comp and then just wail away showing off your dexterious digits!

Yeah, jazz guys NEVER do this ...

hardheartedbill Veteran HFCer

hardheartedbill

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Gee, I have broad enough tastes to enjoy most of the artists mentioned here. There are some I would avoid (Yngwie does as much for me as Trey) I just don't happen to post about them everytime a new thread evolves.

Everyone knows you dislike metal/shred more than Manuel Noriega so please stop tilting at windmills.

regards,

S.

Tilting at windmills

I'm always trying

To knock things down

Or bring 'em around

But they don't come down

They won't come around

Like society

Or that girl that I used to see

Now these are things that just don't change

But I'm tilting at windmills

All the same

tilting at mindwank? please pass your poems foward ;) it's a blade that cuts everything if you let it ( and I have )

copper blue Inner Circle

copper blue

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it's not like I'm fillibustering shredding topics..the thread came up, I posted about my experience with Satriani...sorry...next time I'll start a whole new thread...

Stike Veteran HFCer

Stike

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Like I said it's payback, his son's gonna play shredder stuff just like mine is gonna want to watch nothing but Sports Center.

Cheap Chick Inner Circle

Cheap Chick

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Right ON, Galejt!

Tyminski is WAY the shiznit!

I never thought I'd see the damn day that copper blue would be defending EVH! The seventh seal has been broken! LMAO!

My problem with meedly wankers is that they are a humorless bunch who can't get jokes like "teslacles" get it? TESLAcles? ;)

Gimme "Louie Louie" or gimme death!

copper blue Inner Circle

copper blue

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I never thought I'd see the damn day that copper blue would be defending EVH! The seventh seal has been broken! LMAO!

strange things are afoot at the Circle K.....

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hudpucker

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OMG!! Make it stop, please! My not-so-discerning 'classic-rock and blues' ears just can't distinguish/fathom all those wicked notes!!! Too much info for my penta-brain to process!!

heheh. But seriously, the technique-o-phobes can really bring a musician down, can't they? Good wanking there, sir.

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earachemyeye

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I'd like to see somebody go to a Buckethead concert with a wristrocket and knock that shitty looking thing right off. Now that would be entertaining! I liked the teslacles joke BTW, see you next month Pam.

Joe

SteveB Veteran HFCer

SteveB

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I've been formulating a take on this sort of thing lately. Basically, I think you can broadly break music up into "folk" music and "art" music. I don't mean "folk" in the "acoustic guitars and banjos" way, more more in the "popular, simpler melodies originated and enjoyed by the popular culture" kind of way. The vast majority of rock music is "folk" music in this sense. "Art" music on the other hand is music that in many ways is aimed at sophisticated listeners. A whole lot of people don't like art music because it's not designed to for immediate gratification, it's more like a painting that takes more effort to understand, and might even require some knowlege of the artist and where his motivations lie, and might even require knowledge of painting to the point of being able to see where the artist changed things up. Vai, Satch, et all often straddle the middle ground between folk and art, or go straight to art. While Jazz started off as folk music, it has migrated nearly completly to Art. Mozart was not folk music of the day, and I'm sure many people didn't like to listen to him then either.

I don't "like" alot of BeBop Jazz, but I'm fully willing to admit thats because I don't know what I am listening for, and my ear is not developed enough to really hear the relationship of the harmony and the melody and what a given soloist is doing in that context. You arn't gonna hear me say that a particular BeBopper is "souless" just because I don't get what's happening. What the hell is "soul" anyway? If it's all about the lyrics, then I guess that any instrumental music is incapable of having soul. Part of the "soul" in a Vai or Satch tune is in reality the fact that they can flat out play stuff that is impossible for some other people, or that the create sounds and textures with the guitar that other people don't.

So, if you don't like something, then consider learning what you need in order to appreciate it. It will probably open you up as a musician. On the other hand, you may not give a shit about learning that, which is fine, but don't slag on musicians whose work you choose not to understand.

Stike Veteran HFCer

Stike

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Well said TG. I actually sat down and listened to stuff I didn't really like last night just to see if I might be wrong. It was the CMT Awards Show. I still don't really like most of the stuff Nashville pumps out. I heard some really good players and singers(hard to argue Urban and Paisley) but I still don't like most of the material, production, etc. Hey I made an effort.

Someone's gotta admit that there are a few shredder dudes that are really only just going real fast, not anybody that's been mentioned in this thread but there are a couple real wankers out there.

Tres Aardvarks Veteran HFCer

Tres Aardvarks

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Mozart was not folk music of the day, and I'm sure many people didn't like to listen to him then either.

Heh, that's funny since Mozart was going through my head when I was reading this thread a few times.

See, there are plenty of sections of Opera that could be called "soulless". I mean, really, a soprano nailing the arias in the Magic Flute? My mom HATES that stuff. Personally, what it does for me is show me a person who has devoted enough to their craft to be able to play that piece. Essentially, that is a solo, just written out by the composer. Does it convey emotion? Sometimes, but plenty of people call it singing wankery (or something similar).

I guess that pretty much backs up what you said, TG. I know if someone had called my performances on horn soulless I would've whacked 'em upside the head, but I don't think my college audition piece is known for being a soul-stirring piece. ;) Not on tuba anyway.

Tres Aardvarks Veteran HFCer

Tres Aardvarks

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Someone's gotta admit that there are a few shredder dudes that are really only just going real fast, not anybody that's been mentioned in this thread but there are a couple real wankers out there.

Sure, just like there are plenty of garage bands that really DO suck, plenty of black-turtlenecked art rockers who are all about the pretense, plenty of funk horn sections that don't even realize they're out of tune, etc.

Like any other sub-section of society there will be good, bad, talented, not talented, and of course assholes. ;)

(and yes, I DO agree with you, there's plenty of guys who just sweep pick their little fingers off and say nothing)

MCChris Veteran HFCer

MCChris

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Someone's gotta admit that there are a few shredder dudes that are really only just going real fast, not anybody that's been mentioned in this thread but there are a couple real wankers out there.

Chris Impelliteri comes immediately to mind. Man, that dude's positively robotic!

Cheap Chick Inner Circle

Cheap Chick

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If five notes sound good, FIVE THOUSAND sound 1000% better!!! LOL

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